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Old 01-06-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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Am I the only one who is dumbfounded by this?
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Old 01-06-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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I believe suicide is murder. I understand that the current mainstream thinking is that suicide is "fine," and no one should be shamed for doing it - it's a very pro-suicide environment.

But the major religions are not "for" it - and even in metaphysical studies, Delores Cannon talks about the ill-effects on the people who do it in the afterlife (it's on YouTube for anyone interested).

It is not a solution, if you understand the long term issues - and it is very passive-aggressive to create a horror movie scene for your "loved ones" (use that term very loosely) to stumble upon.

There will be a lot of responses that the person is "mentally ill" and "can't help it" (suicide apologists).

Please provide a link to the story.
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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I've heard it referred to that way.

I had a coworker who used to say it was the coward's way out, because instead of dealing with your problems you leave them PLUS the tragedy of your death for your loved ones to handle.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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So your professor identified himself to be a judgmental a$$hole, now you know what he is. Bottom line is everyone has the right to live their lives or end their lives, nobody has the right to dictate this decision to anyone else.

"I believe suicide is murder." - you are very much alone on this ridiculous opinion, since murder is by definition the unlawful killing of ANOTHER human being. Do you consider someone who masturbates guilty of a sex crime?
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:11 PM
 
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By the definition of the word, they are cowards.


cow·ard
/ˈkou(ə)rd/
noun
noun: coward; plural noun: cowards
1.
a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.

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Old 01-06-2019, 04:24 PM
 
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By the sheer definition of the word, they are cowards.


cow·ard
/ˈkou(ə)rd/
noun
noun: coward; plural noun: cowards
1.
a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
The whole premise of life begins with being born through no decision of our own, and into conditions we have no control over. We are thrust into this life, having all kinds of burdens placed on us and told to do the best we can. I see no problem with saying "I reject this situation I never asked for." It is not cowardice, it is only fair.
That being said, those who judge others who have never walked in their shoes are by sheer definition, a$$holes.
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Old 01-06-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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Am I the only one who is dumbfounded by this?
Maybe not dumbfounded, but surprised. Calling a whole group of people cowards is conveniently dismissive especially if the speaker doesn't even know their circumstances. I think the act of suicide is often viewed as cowardly compared to enduring a miserable life, but that doesn't mean the person choosing it was a coward about everything else. They hit some point of no return and made a decision that can't be revoked. How each individual got there matters. There is ritual suicide that could be viewed as selflessly sacrificial.

Haven't met anyone yet who believes suicide is "fine". No one should be shamed for it. What earthly good would that do? They are not around to feel judged. They should however be mourned.

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Old 01-06-2019, 06:23 PM
 
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The whole premise of life begins with being born through no decision of our own, and into conditions we have no control over. We are thrust into this life, having all kinds of burdens placed on us and told to do the best we can. I see no problem with saying "I reject this situation I never asked for." It is not cowardice, it is only fair.
That being said, those who judge others who have never walked in their shoes are by sheer definition, a$$holes.
Agreed
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Old 01-06-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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Am I the only one who is dumbfounded by this?
In the context of a college professor teaching a course in psychology I'd say that was inappropriate. He/she is entitled to a personal opinion but comments made in class should be objective and based on empirical evidence. Multiple perspectives can be discussed in terms of theory - but personal opinions unrelated to research are out of place.

This was not a class in theology, philosophy, etc.
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Old 01-06-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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In the context of a college professor teaching a course in psychology I'd say that was inappropriate. He/she is entitled to a personal opinion but comments made in class should be objective and based on empirical evidence. Multiple perspectives can be discussed in terms of theory - but personal opinions unrelated to research are out of place.

This was not a class in theology, philosophy, etc.
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