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But still feeling depressed, according to her own post, so I would say it's partially controlled. With insulin-controlled diabetes, you're not always partially in a diabetic coma, so the analogy doesn't hold up.
Controlled as in NOT OUT OF HANDS as in NOT CONSTANTLY WANTING TO KILL themselves
I'm sure you mean well, and a great many people feel as you do but you are wrong, wrong, wrong.
Pills do not "numb you down", and those who believe they do, while in the majority, are poorly informed. Alcohol numbs you down. Users of the proper medication are not numb.
I was not "numb" when I took medication. What I was, was able to think clearly long enough (about 8 years) to get my feet under me, get enough sleep, make good decisions and actually form relationships with the people around me. Later, after years of thinking clearly, I was able to do without medication.
Your post is unhelpful in that the underlying message is, "pills are a temporary crutch used by weak people who cannot deal with the world".
You don't know a single thing about depression medication.
Okay. That is just what I have experienced with friends and men I dated who are depressed. I am not a doctor or mental health professional. I just know a lot of people who are on medication and I dated a guy for 3 years who had severe depression on and off and tried out different meds. Some made him loopy, some made him numb, some made him aggressive, some gave him headaches, some made him gain weight, some made him totally wired.
My new roomie is on anxiety pills. Unable to fill out new hire paperwork for her new job because "she is overwhelmed". I worry she wont even start the job out of fear to fail. Crying every other day and seems very loopy. Probably from her meds. She is under a doctors care and therapists. I know that's not the norm though that someone on pills seems so drugged up.
And numb - most people I know describe it as numbing down the body and mind. How else would you get suicidal thoughts under control with these pills? I have never experienced anyone on depression or anxiety pills who got HAPPY through them. They were just LESS unhappy.
And yes, pills are a crutch for people who are for whatever reason it is for each who are not strong enough to deal with everyday issues/the world.
If you don't believe me, just google "depression medication and numb" -
Yeah - like a diabetic on insulin - they are still diabetic...right?
I still have the condition even though I'm not currently suicidal.
But I don't think you're really just obtuse.
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Originally Posted by thinkingandwondering
The logic here is lacking.
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Originally Posted by otterhere
A diabetic on insulin has CONTROLLED diabetes. If you still feel depressed (as you said), then your medication is not controlling your depression. Logic is hard!
Ahhhhh - a truly nuanced reader!
Well, then I suppose I didn't specify the difference of being a sufferer of major depression who is being TREATED for depression vs. nirvana. In that sense, my depression is being controlled in that it is much improved. However - am I ecstatic (are you?) Joyful every day? Jumping out of bed every morning eager to take on every challenge? No, No, and No..
It would be more respectful if you believed ME when I am reporting on my own determination of the degree to which antidepressants are working for me and the degree of improvement I feel when taking them vs. not. Rather, you are splitting hairs on the definition of "controlled". Lots of medications don't bring the patient up to 100% "normal"/"typical"/"average"/"perfect". That doesn't mean they aren't worthwhile or don't have benefit.
But still feeling depressed, according to her own post, so I would say it's partially controlled. With insulin-controlled diabetes, you're not always partially in a diabetic coma, so the analogy doesn't hold up.
No, but your A1C levels may not be below 5.7% every time (maybe they are at 6.3%)...though they are clearly well below the 9.5% they were before treatment. Hey - over time that might mean the difference between losing a foot to gangrene vs. keeping it!
You didn't say you're not "in nirvana, ecstatic, joyful" (and I never suggested you or anyone on or off drugs should be), but you DID say you're still depressed. I wouldn't call that a success, even if you're not so depressed as to kill yourself.
But if you're satisfied with your medication's performance, that's all that matters!
You didn't say you're not "in nirvana, ecstatic, joyful" (and I never suggested you or anyone on or off drugs should be), but you DID say you're still depressed. I wouldn't call that a success, even if you're not so depressed as to kill yourself.
But if you're satisfied with your medication's performance, that's all that matters!
Yes THANK YOU. I'd like to be "even" better...but ya know what? I haven't taken any supplements that have helped MORE, or taken any other measures that even helped AS MUCH. I feel no stigma AT ALL about taking antidepressants - maybe that's because I've come from a family with many mental health issues - some have lived, and others have died...guess which ones lived? The weak ones who realized they needed the kind of help medication could provide.
Why do you even care? Think people who take meds are weak (or just if they have mental health issues)? I couldn't care less, frankly but I don't think the OP should be deterred from looking at all the options open to them.
I never said anyone was "weak." And I'm sure OP is aware of antidepressants as an option, at least if he/she ever watches TV, as every other commercial seems to be pushing one or the other.
I never said anyone was "weak." And I'm sure OP is aware of antidepressants as an option, at least if he/she ever watches TV, as every other commercial seems to be pushing one or the other.
For me the only cure for depression was to accept it and stop fighting it and learn to live with it. When I did that, stopped thinking about it, it went away.
I've never known anyone with low self worth. I've known people who claim to have low self worth but they really don't. They use it as a way to garner sympathy from others or be non threatening. But they really think they are smart, and they usually are.
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