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I just looked up Chatham Park, and it sounds overconfident. "The project will likely increase Pittsboro's population to more than 60,000 people." Ummm, seriously? Pittsboro has around 4,000 now, and growth rates in the Triangle might decline in the future, but if you say so...... When are they expecting to kick this off? And I don't think I quite understand what it is in the first place!
I just looked up Chatham Park, and it sounds overconfident. "The project will likely increase Pittsboro's population to more than 60,000 people." Ummm, seriously? Pittsboro has around 4,000 now, and growth rates in the Triangle might decline in the future, but if you say so...... When are they expecting to kick this off? And I don't think I quite understand what it is in the first place!
That number makes sense when you wrap your head around the scale of Chatham Park. It literally dwarfs Pittsboro to the East.
I wonder what traffic on 64 coming into Cary and Apex will be like once they get Chatham Park up and running. I know it is supposed to take 40 years to complete it, but, say, 15 years from now with no upgrades to 64, I just can't imagine.
I just looked up Chatham Park, and it sounds overconfident. "The project will likely increase Pittsboro's population to more than 60,000 people." Ummm, seriously? Pittsboro has around 4,000 now, and growth rates in the Triangle might decline in the future, but if you say so...... When are they expecting to kick this off? And I don't think I quite understand what it is in the first place!
Hey jay jay- why do you think growth in the Triangle might decline? Apex is and will build every sq. inch up till the Chatham line and have annexed similar to Cary in Western Cary..Think the issues for the future is water in that all these developments near Jordan and Falls will increase run off no matter what they say about buffers especially with a GOP legislative hellbent on relaxing regulations for business.
Happened at Crabtree when they built the MetLife monster which has already damaged Crabtree in terms of ecosystem and recreation. Pittsboro will surprise you in the coming years have a look at the Brier Chapel community and expect more.
Every time I am on 64 in Apex going past the ugly new site for Costco I put on Joni Mitchell and play Big Yellow Taxi and just start singing "they paved paradise and put up a parking lot"... Heck that goes for most of the area.
What about Frankin County? With North Wake continuing to explode and 540, you would think it would be the natural spillover location for growth. But an inadequate U.S. 1 has stymied growth potential for this county. Franklin County and Vance County should be clamoring nonstop to have U.S. 1 transformed into a freeway to I-85. Raleigh should want the same so that it has a seamless route to DC and the Northeast Corridor.
I wonder what traffic on 64 coming into Cary and Apex will be like once they get Chatham Park up and running. I know it is supposed to take 40 years to complete it, but, say, 15 years from now with no upgrades to 64, I just can't imagine.
And not room to widen the portions of the road over the lake without serious structural/aesthetic changes.
The best way to figure out what the boundaries might be X years out is to see where the people that "want more land" or "want more rural", but still want the advantages of an urban area in terms of jobs, healthcare, etc., are moving today. If something is close enough and served well enough by roads today, it's likely to be engulfed in 15-20 years.
Although The plans may be for Chatham Park to be self-contained, the reality is that its success depends upon connectivity to Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Durham, and Cary. To attract the number of projected residents, businesses, and amenities, it will have to market its proximity to Triangle cities. Chatham is a nice place, but scores of thousands of people and many businesses aren't going to come there If the location is viewed in isolation.
Although The plans may be for Chatham Park to be self-contained, the reality is that its success depends upon connectivity to Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Durham, and Cary. To attract the number of projected residents, businesses, and amenities, it will have to market its proximity to Triangle cities. Chatham is a nice place, but scores of thousands of people and many businesses aren't going to come there If the location is viewed in isolation.
Exactly. It's an idea that sounds great to sell the project, but it's silly to imagine tens of thousands of people all living/working/playing in one little location.
I participated in the ULI's Reality Check exercise a couple of years ago, and it was interesting to see luminaries (the Goodmons of the world, folks like David Strong of Rex and now Orlando Health, etc.) all looking for ways to reduce sprawl, build denser communities, reduce traffic, etc. As part of the exercise, we were supposed to add yellow and red blocks reflecting where we would put new residents and jobs, which most of us tried to work in into the existing portions of the Triangle to cut down on sprawl.
We had this one buffoon from I think the Chatham Co. chamber, though, who bunched all the red/yellow blocks on Pittsboro and said, essentially, "Pittsboro is the next place to boom in the Triangle and we want our share of beds and jobs." Forget growing Cary or Raleigh or Durham, let's through all these people out into Pittsboro!
Sheesh.
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