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For all of you that think this area is too big. There are at least 80 other counties in the state without urban development.
Plenty of other states, too, most of whom are not experiencing the sort of mass migration as NC. Housing is probably cheaper. Get moving before a bunch of folks from NJ ruin it all!!
My biggest problem with Raleigh is the sprawl. I dislike seeing sprawl go on forever, especially in places like Clayton when there are tons of undeveloped areas inside Wake County closer to Raleigh.
The "You shouldn't complain about the traffic here" comments always crack me up. Saying that is pretty silly because there is always some place worse. A person in NY might say Raleigh drivers shouldn't complain, but I'm sure there is a guy in Mexico City or somewhere in China who can tell the guy in NY not to complain.
It's all relative to what the local standard is, and it's not going to get any better. Obviously, the road infrastructure hasn't kept up.
Re: Sprawl: If I was a developer, I'd be building in Clayton and less developed areas, too. That's where the cheaper land is. If you're not a high-end home builder who can make up the difference on high-land prices, I imagine you'd go elsewhere.
The growth in this area didn't really take off until the era of the suburb. Creating high-density areas is more challenging than re-developing density that was already there for the past 50-100 years.
And speaking of infrastructure, lets not forget that Falls Lake, Raleigh's primary drinking water source built in the early 80s was designed to have a usable life span of something like 50 years. That's not too far away. Remember in 2007 it almost ran dry and there are many more people here now.
The "You shouldn't complain about the traffic here" comments always crack me up. Saying that is pretty silly because there is always some place worse. A person in NY might say Raleigh drivers shouldn't complain, but I'm sure there is a guy in Mexico City or somewhere in China who can tell the guy in NY not to complain.
It's all relative to what the local standard is, and it's not going to get any better. Obviously, the road infrastructure hasn't kept up.
Re: Sprawl: If I was a developer, I'd be building in Clayton and less developed areas, too. That's where the cheaper land is. If you're not a high-end home builder who can make up the difference on high-land prices, I imagine you'd go elsewhere.
The growth in this area didn't really take off until the era of the suburb. Creating high-density areas is more challenging than re-developing density that was already there for the past 50-100 years.
And speaking of infrastructure, lets not forget that Falls Lake, Raleigh's primary drinking water source built in the early 80s was designed to have a usable life span of something like 50 years. That's not too far away. Remember in 2007 it almost ran dry and there are many more people here now.
That may be true, but in this case, Raleigh traffic is really pretty incredible (in a good way) for the size of the city and the amount of growth. Heck, my experience is that Chapel Hill Traffic is worse than Raleigh (serious comment),
But not just NYC and LA and SF. Houston, Chicago, Charlotte, Atlanta, Austin, Midland-Odessa, Philly, and on and on and on. They're all noticeably worse.
Overcrowding of North Hills has turned it into a piece of junk. With the new buildings the developer is putting up now thanks to a stupid, greedy city, nobody in their right mind who does not live there will want to shop there.
Harris-Teeter's parking is now getting jammed up while the folks are not visible in the store. Bruegger's is a nightmare thanks to their parking lot being taken away.
NJ is coming here to welcome its old population.
Yes, 1 person does agree with you. So please stop generalizing as if everyone else in the area did too.
What I pay in Cameron Village is cheap for being so close to Downtown. You'd pay much more in other more expensive cities. My Raleigh-Cary commute is also a breeze.
The massive influx of transplants cannot be good for any area. Overcrowding of schools, housing pricing increases (without the income increase), and even lack of housing.
Growth is good, but massive growth is not (just like a massive migration isn't good).
The massive influx of transplants cannot be good for any area. Overcrowding of schools, housing pricing increases (without the income increase), and even lack of housing.
Growth is good, but massive growth is not (just like a massive migration isn't good).
Said everyone in 1975 after the first wave of IBMers was living all around North Hills.
Interestingly, Daniels Middle school was built in the mid 60s. Evidently, people were super concerned that the school system was wasting money building a school way out in the sticks like that where no one would ever want to live.
No it's not. The OP claimed that Raleigh was getting traffic like a big city, when in fact, it's not getting anything close to that.
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