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My issue is this: Things are changing and growing, and that's not going to stop no matter what anyone including elected officials do, nor do I think stopping it is a good idea. However, we need to accept and come to terms with this and plan ahead on how to manage and handle the changes in a comprehensive and thoughtful manner. Sticking one's head in the sand and refusing to recognize what's going on and/or crowing about how good it "used to be" isn't going to help things get better.
No it's not. The OP claimed that Raleigh was getting traffic like a big city, when in fact, it's not getting anything close to that.
Actually, I didn't say it's getting traffic like a big city. I am not saying Raleigh has the same amount of traffic as NY, Miami, CA, or even Houston during rush hour. But traffic in Raleigh is getting noticeably bigger each year. I said in my first message that it's not as bad as the big cities, but it's going that route.
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What are you comparing it to that has more going on, is cheaper, less traffic and great job opportunities? And why aren't you there?
I wasn't really comparing it to any city, I was speaking in general that the things that people tend to avoid in bigger cities like the things you have listed are starting to get noticed in Raleigh. I understand that there isn't any place that is perfect, and I have no problems making comprises to give up certain things, but my point of the whole discussion is while the bad things are getting noticeably worse, the good things about bigger cities aren't really showing as much. Which is why some people who come from bigger states find it boring, even though we have many things that bigger cities has except it's downgraded so to speak. Again my whole point is while it's not bad now, we can only wonder what will happen to it in the near future.
Actually, I didn't say it's getting traffic like a big city. I am not saying Raleigh has the same amount of traffic as NY, Miami, CA, or even Houston during rush hour. But traffic in Raleigh is getting noticeably bigger each year. I said in my first message that it's not as bad as the big cities, but it's going that route.
I wasn't really comparing it to any city, I was speaking in general that the things that people tend to avoid in bigger cities like the things you have listed are starting to get noticed in Raleigh. I understand that there isn't any place that is perfect, and I have no problems making comprises to give up certain things, but my point of the whole discussion is while the bad things are getting noticeably worse, the good things about bigger cities aren't really showing as much. Which is why some people who come from bigger states find it boring, even though we have many things that bigger cities has except it's downgraded so to speak. Again my whole point is while it's not bad now, we can only wonder what will happen to it in the near future.
Any place that is getting more popular is of course going to get more congested and have busier traffic. But no, Raleigh isn't there yet. It doesn't have any of those downsides that you mention come with your typical busy cities.
This is just my opinion or at least from what I am noticing. Raleigh seems to have all the bad things from the bigger cities like high rent, expensive, traffic. But, it's lacking the pros of the big cities like more entertainment, vibrant places, live concerts, more places open at night or more "lively". I know that it's not as bad and expensive as some of the bigger cities like up north, but I can see it going that route. I honestly can't picture Raleigh in 5-10 years from now. It might get more entertaining places, but in no way I can see it less crowded or more affordable.
You have obviously never lived in a big city then.
You have obviously never lived in a big city then.
Yeah really, let me tell you about the time our two friends, the actuary and the lawyer, moved back here from the DC area because they didn't feel like they could afford a decent home there. Like, unrenovated 50-100 year old houses of about 1500 SF were $500,000+.
No live music? More entertainment? Man I go to gigs like 2-4 nights a week what are you talking about. Entertainment? What ore could you want? There is PLENTY. I just don't even really know how to respond to this post or where to begin. Traffic? Sure it gets backed up sometimes but the immediate metro has over 1 million people...what do you expect? The highway system here is one of the best I've encountered. You trippin bruh
My issue is this: Things are changing and growing, and that's not going to stop no matter what anyone including elected officials do, nor do I think stopping it is a good idea. However, we need to accept and come to terms with this and plan ahead on how to manage and handle the changes in a comprehensive and thoughtful manner. Sticking one's head in the sand and refusing to recognize what's going on and/or crowing about how good it "used to be" isn't going to help things get better.
It can easily stop if the government stops bribing companies to move into overcrowded areas and makes developers pay upfront for infrastructure needs they create.
We need jobs in high unemployment counties, not this area.
We can control growth but must stamp out a lot of greed to do it.
Years ago, one Western state even posted billboards on their highways saying "Don't Californicate Our State". We might try "Don't Jerseyfornicate Our State".
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