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Like I said, but you somehow failed to read...the Vinfast jobs will mostly go to those out of state
The average salary for these VinFast jobs is pretty low (51K) so I'm not sure how many people will be relocating here to work there for that kind of salary.
Ok so even new compared to new, basically everything you save in gas goes back into buying another battery at the end of 8 years. You could trade it in but I image that would be like trading in a vehicle that needs a new engine. Taking a huge hit either way and back to where you would have been just buying gas.
Meanwhile the Honda just keeps chugging along and will be worth more at the end of that EV battery cycle
The entire draw to EV is not having to buy gas (because they sure aren't green). It's like buying a 5500 s.f mansion with a bowling ally because bowling is too expensive.
It makes no sense. Hybird makes much more sense than full on electric
You cherry pick one point, but I'll respond.
1. 8 years is just the warrantee, evidence shows most last longer, but we know you're covered for 8 years,
2. At the end of 8 years, if you spend $5k on another battery and get another 8 years out of it, you'll save another 8K in gas again, you'll avoid all the maintenance costs of an ICE, you won't have to replace the timing belt, you hedge the volatile cost of gas, and etc.
Again, it just seems like you WANT to be angry about it.
They are not for everyone, but they certainly serve a pretty large swath of the potential auto market. (I would not own one as an ONLY vehicle, but I would absolutely consider one for my next purchase. we are currently a 3-car family and will always be minimum of 2-cars.)
It gets really tiresome correcting people who are so passionately misinformed. Electric vehicles were invented before the internal combustion engine and we know how that ended. It wasn't until the government came along and propped up all of these companies that anyone gave them a second thought.
Batteries weren't invented yesterday. They've been around for hundreds of years and their growth potential is limited.
I'm never going to buy one because I don't like the way they drive. I hate the regenerative braking and non-existent road feel.
That is intentional misinformation. You KNOW that Electrical cars may have been around for 100 years, but alternative energy has only been a focus for the past decade or so.
THe goverment also 'came along and propped" up the Oil and Gas industry, they bailed out the Auto industry too. Battery technology has come a LONG way in the past decade. Look at the performance of your mobile phone as an example. As much as the hard right would like to think otherwise on so many issues, we are not in the world we had 100 years ago, so quit trying to force others to live their lives like we are.
And out of curiosity: How many EV's have you driven. Can you list the make and model? I wonder if you drove one a hundred years ago, and are formulating your opinion on that? When I read car reviews, they get pretty good ratings from places like Edmunds, Car and driver, etc. I've never driven one, but I once reluctantly drove an electric go-kart. SO MUCH MORE fun than ICE go karts. Faster, quiety, better excelleration, lower center of gravity. IF that is indicative of the cars, I'm in. (I'd love to drive one and know for myself.)
Show all the evidence of people needing batteries after 8 years. There is none, because except for the original Nissan Leaf, there is no massive degradation of batteries that is imagined by the misinformation campaign. And, plenty of gas cars have blown out engines or other large problems after 8-10 years.
The average salary for these VinFast jobs is pretty low (51K) so I'm not sure how many people will be relocating here to work there for that kind of salary.
You'll see relocations for some top management and engineering positions, et.., but for the vast majority of the headcount... yeah people aren't moving across the country to make $38,000 driving a forklift or sorting parts at a car plant. Even most of the $48,000/yr line positions won't pull people outside the region. The median salary will likely come in a little below $51k like other car plants, as the top 10% of the plant salaries can pull an average up.
That's why the community college partnerships are so important to prepare a pipeline of local workers with manufacturing plant skills. The BMW plant in Spartanburg is a good example of the type of program to create... BMW partners with local high schools offering $12 an hour internships at 15 hours per week to start developing the talent, support them getting an Associate Degree in Automotive Technology, and then transition them to the plant full time at 40 hours per week. For high school students that are not destined for an undergraduate program immediately after high school, it is an appealing way to earn income in high school and have a decent job after high school for a job that doesn't require a four-year degree.
Like I said, but you somehow failed to read...the Vinfast jobs will mostly go to those out of state
People who move to the area become residents and ... oh, why am I even arguing with you? You didn't address the other points I made. And it's obvious you have a "EVs are bad/no one uses them because I don't/people who do are all outsiders who come to destroy the state" mentality. I'm over discussing this issue with you.
Show all the evidence of people needing batteries after 8 years. There is none, because except for the original Nissan Leaf, there is no massive degradation of batteries that is imagined by the misinformation campaign. And, plenty of gas cars have blown out engines or other large problems after 8-10 years.
Most cars are reliable these days to 200k miles and many are reliable up to 250k. How many miles are EVs reliable for?
Most cars are reliable these days to 200k miles and many are reliable up to 250k. How many miles are EVs reliable for?
80% of EV sales are leased.... so I think people are really only thinking about 3 years down the road and then they'll switch to the newest model and enter into another lease. When you think of Tesla's market share in the EV market it makes sense.... the same crowd that upgrades to the latest iPhone every 12 months is a similar consumer group to those getting EVs. They'll want the latest / greatest / newest. Cars are a disposable commodity you upgrade as quickly as possible to stay trendy.
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