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The technology today is not the ultimate answer 5 or 10 years from now. Keep an eye on solid-state batteries as an example of promising changes. Ability to charge faster and go longer distances is not very far off.
The model A was not the final product. Neither is this generation of electric vehicles.
It makes zero sense to have a gas powered car for road trips and an expensive electric car for going to work. One car will do both and one will not. That's not going to be very popular.
Just because you aren't seeing any long lines doesn't mean its not happening or not GOING to happen. As of right now 30k people in this state have electric cars. That's 30k people out of 10.4 million. They are pushing for 60% of the population to drive EV by 2030 so we're talking a little over 6 MILLION EVs on the road. How long does it take to charge an EV? 15-20 min on a super fast charger? I can fuel up my car in about 3-5 min. so 3-4 times longer wait times. I guess if you had 4x as many chargers as fuel pumps that could be a solution.
What about the power grid? How much electricity is consumed charging millions of cars every day? I get emails now from Duke energy wanting me to conserve energy during peak times by turning my a/c off or up during the day.
Maybe someone here knows how much power is currently being consumed in this area and can do the math on it. Sharron Harris Nuclear plant has a capacity of 928 megawatts. Not sure how close it currently is to that, but the emails mean something.
Oh, my Bolt, which cost like $35k and costs about 3 cents a mile to drive is so expensive!
And since most people will charge at home, overnight, the additional load during peak times is minimal and in some cases helps keep the base load plants running at a predictable, constant level.
A story that's been repeated hundreds of times in North Carolina. The flip side is that residents will be getting more far more for their property than they ever imagined.
For real?
I would LOVE to hear from someone here to post about how the compensation and entire process went for them.
The technology today is not the ultimate answer 5 or 10 years from now. Keep an eye on solid-state batteries as an example of promising changes. Ability to charge faster and go longer distances is not very far off.
The model A was not the final product. Neither is this generation of electric vehicles.
Solid state batteries have a much shorter life span. They will not be the solution to the current problems.
I will say that you are correct, today's technology is not the ultimate answer. Batteries are inherently inefficient and nothing will be better than on-board power generation.
CNG vehicles are probably the best solution for minimizing environmental impact while retaining long term reliability and minimizing cost. We have ample supply to last far into the future and it produces far less pollution than oil or lithium strip mining. But it's a fossil fuel so for a lot of people, practicality has been tossed out the window. The manufacturers are going to continue to make battery powered vehicles as long as the government subsidizes them. Imagine what else could have been created with all of that subsidy....
Oh, my Bolt, which cost like $35k and costs about 3 cents a mile to drive is so expensive!
And since most people will charge at home, overnight, the additional load during peak times is minimal and in some cases helps keep the base load plants running at a predictable, constant level.
$35,000 for a cheap quality economy car from Chevrolet is a TERRIBLE deal. It's a glorified grocery getter. I'd rather have a Honda Fit.
Imagine what else could have been created with all of that subsidy....
The US provides about $20 billion dollars every year in subsidies to the fossil fuel industry. Imagine the good that actually could have been done with that amount of money annually.
Oh, my Bolt, which cost like $35k and costs about 3 cents a mile to drive is so expensive!
And since most people will charge at home, overnight, the additional load during peak times is minimal and in some cases helps keep the base load plants running at a predictable, constant level.
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Originally Posted by codygreen
$35,000 for a cheap quality economy car from Chevrolet is a TERRIBLE deal. It's a glorified grocery getter. I'd rather have a Honda Fit.
Lemmee see....
One poster OWNS and DRIVES the car. One does not.
The owner is happy. The poster who doesn't own one is not.
To the bolded, again displaying a very closed mind. Why does that make zero sense? My wife likes her SUV, and like you, is very anti-EV. She'll always have a ICE as long as she can. Her choice.
So why does it make zero sense for me to have an EV, and to drive her car on the occasion I have a solo road trip. This is a COMMON strategy, has been discussed in this thread, and on the many threads on the P&OC forum. Most multi-driver families have more than one car. How does not NOT MAKE SENSE to be strategic in the cars you buy?
I didn't realize we are now talking about families. Of course 2 people have 2 cars. Lots of times one is a beater. For ONE person, it makes no sense to buy a car that you can't take on a road trip. Can you? Yes. Is it the best option? NO
Oh, my Bolt, which cost like $35k and costs about 3 cents a mile to drive is so expensive!
And since most people will charge at home, overnight, the additional load during peak times is minimal and in some cases helps keep the base load plants running at a predictable, constant level.
Quote:
Originally Posted by codygreen
$35,000 for a cheap quality economy car from Chevrolet is a TERRIBLE deal. It's a glorified grocery getter. I'd rather have a Honda Fit.
Lemmee see....
One poster OWNS and DRIVES the car. One does not.
The owner is happy. The poster who doesn't own one is not.
Hmmmmm....
Make that TWO posters who own and drive the car. My Bolt is my fave car ever. I've had a bunch of different cars over the decades, too, but my Bolt is definitely my #1.
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