How to convince your man to let you sleep with your best friend? (lesbians, husband)
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Sub/Dom relationship? What the hell? Do you tell people with a straight face that you are in a slave/master relationship? Now, you want to sleep with your best friend? I think some therapy here is way overdue, what is this world coming to?!
Again, same thing I asked of the other posters who stated something as factual - source this. Prove your assertion. Saying it does not make it so. Where did you obtain this information? Who conducted the study? What was the statistical sample?
personal experience and many professional friends in the MHS business.
multiple counselors and counselor directors in EAP and marriage and family counseling. you may DM me-- i dont flash credentials on a public forum. swinging is a devastating social experiment. your best friend uses your love to betray you by forcing you to do something utterly contrary to your own core values. takes years of therapy to even begin to undo the damage.
good ol home grown sheer evil.
Last edited by Huckleberry3911948; 07-14-2010 at 07:56 PM..
On the other hand, you might be able to live your dream by tapping upon your creative juices and do the smart thing :
Ask your lady friend, to have her guy call (or text) to your guy, something like: "Hey, why don't you and Maria come
by for a little get-together on Saturday afternoon, We can watch the ballgame (that wouldn't be a lie, unless he asks,
who is ballin'?).You almost need to liquor him up, put on Victoria's most revealing secret, head over to your BGF's place,
where all four of you can turn on the mood music, fire-up a big fat-ass blunt and...GET DOWN! Trust me Maria, these things seem to always find a way to work themselves out.
personal experience and many professional friends in the MHS business.
multiple counselors and counselor directors in EAP and marriage and family counseling. you may DM me-- i dont flash credentials on a public forum. swinging is a devestating social experiment. your best friend uses your love to betray you by forcing you to do something utterly contrary to your own core values. takes years of therapy to even begin to undo the damage.
good ol home grown sheer evil.
So in other words, nothing but an opinion. No actual facts. No verifiable statistics.
Right. Gotcha.
Do you remember the opinions of those same types of professionals about things like masturbation, female orgasms, or even homosexuality?
Your credentials don't actually matter, particularly given the fact that it's easy to find someone with the same or even better credentials to refute you. He said/she said. Opinions. Not facts.
Prove your assertion. If this is such a devastating social experiment as you claim, surely someone has proven that by now?
personal experience and many professional friends in the MHS business.
multiple counselors and counselor directors in EAP and marriage and family counseling. you may DM me-- i dont flash credentials on a public forum. swinging is a devestating social experiment. your best friend uses your love to betray you by forcing you to do something utterly contrary to your own core values. takes years of therapy to even begin to undo the damage.
good ol home grown sheer evil.
Just to give perspective on the value of these professional opinions...
Asserting that swinging is a devastating social experiment, based on the people those in the mental health field come into contact with, is about on par with asserting that the global population is schizophrenic or bipolar based solely on the people the mental health field is counseling.
It is a field where contact with individuals is almost entirely based on those individuals actually having a problem. Now, the smart person looks at the rest of the functioning world and says, "well obviously the entire population isn't schizophrenic. Look at all these people going about their lives, obviously doing just fine." And so we understand that just because the people the therapist sees during work hours are mentally ill, that doesn't mean the population as whole is.
With something like swinging, or most alternative lifestyles, you instead jump to the conclusion that because the people seen IN therapy are issue-laden, everyone else involved in those lifestyles must be as well?
That is so completely illogical as to just be absurd.
personal experience and many professional friends in the MHS business.
multiple counselors and counselor directors in EAP and marriage and family counseling. you may DM me-- i dont flash credentials on a public forum. swinging is a devestating social experiment. your best friend uses your love to betray you by forcing you to do something utterly contrary to your own core values. takes years of therapy to even begin to undo the damage.
good ol home grown sheer evil.
Someone mentioned Loveline earlier--it's a radio show where people call in with questions about sex. It's safe to assume that many of the callers have problems because they are calling in because of their problems. It's the same with therapy, counseling, EAP: those people are there because they are unhappy. You seem to be ignoring the people who are not in therapy because their lives suit them just fine.
Someone mentioned Loveline earlier--it's a radio show where people call in with questions about sex. It's safe to assume that many of the callers have problems because they are calling in because of their problems. It's the same with therapy, counseling, EAP: those people are there because they are unhappy. You seem to be ignoring the people who are not in therapy because their lives suit them just fine.
many heroin addicts are not in therapy bek " their lives suit them just fine". that does not mean heroin is good for you. but the drug addict will argue that it is, as will the sex addict argue that swinging is good for him and his unwilling spouse.
Just to give perspective on the value of these professional opinions...
Asserting that swinging is a devastating social experiment, based on the people those in the mental health field come into contact with, is about on par with asserting that the global population is schizophrenic or bipolar based solely on the people the mental health field is counseling.
It is a field where contact with individuals is almost entirely based on those individuals actually having a problem. Now, the smart person looks at the rest of the functioning world and says, "well obviously the entire population isn't schizophrenic. Look at all these people going about their lives, obviously doing just fine." And so we understand that just because the people the therapist sees during work ours are mentally ill, that doesn't mean the population as whole is.
With something like swinging, or most alternative lifestyles, you instead jump to the conclusion that because the people seen IN therapy are issue-laden, everyone else involved in those lifestyles must be as well.
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