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Woman here. I am pretty friendly/chatty. I don't approach men, but will smile and so on. If we are in a position where conversation can naturally happen, I might open up a conversation. I.e. we are standing in line together, or in the same aisle or something like that. But honestly, starting that convo has little to do with flirting and more to of with my mood. The tricky thing is, some men think it is flirting and get totally weird.
On the flip side, for the ones I am interested in, I will 100% do the "hover" technique. You men should look out for it. If you keep seeing the same woman nearby several times, it is not an accident. You should strike up a conversation. It works something like smile, make eye contact, stay in radius.
Women rarely approach men in public like that unless we're talking about social circles/workplace relationships etc. Are you seriously denying that these cold approaches don't work? No offense maybe I'm not good at attracting women to me, but maybe you're not good at doing cold approaches either. I would agree that women that are attracted to you in public tend to use body language, eye contact, smiling, or putting themselves in your orbit etc. to give you clues that they are potentially interested and available.
What I mean is women that smile, make mutual long term eye contact etc. are probably interested but rarely do they come up to you and say anything. I'm not saying that never happens but it's rare for me. For example there's a women that works as a teller at my bank and she's giggly whenever I'm around, smiles, makes mutual eye contact long term etc. I'd give it a high chance she's attracted to me and I've been meaning to get the guts myself to ask for her number or give her mine.
You can say these are fake below but here is Chris in action. He has had a ton of experience with this though, and he genuinely doesn't care if he gets rejected. He also looks for mutual eye contact smiling etc.
Are you serious that they never work? Or maybe all of these videos are fake (highly doubtful). I admit that Chris is well built meaning he works out a lot, he's experienced, he only cares about getting laid,and he's sort of a creep by his own admission. The point is most guys could work out, look better, lower body fat, gain muscle, and approach women too if they really wanted like this. What's stopping them?
Can't see the videos but they are fake. Just actors playing their roles. They hope guys will buy into it and then buy stuff on their websites. If women are interested they will approach you not just give signals.
Women however seem to take care of themselves better than men for the most part, so the drop-off may not be as significant in the late 30's for women as for men. I think geographic location might play a factor as well to an extent.
Can't see the videos but they are fake. Just actors playing their roles. They hope guys will buy into it and then buy stuff on their websites. If women are interested they will approach you not just give signals.
Uhh yeah no they're almost certainly not fake. I can obviously tell you didn't watch them. Chris doesn't sell anything. I repeat he owns a self help forum and sells nothing all of his stuff is free. It's highly unlikely if you look at these women that they're acting. Also as jade408 said women will tend to "hover" around men they're interested in but usually even in the case of my Ex GF I had to make the first message/move. I just disagree with you entirely sorry dude.
But looking at my reply if some guy didn't fit exactly your "kind of look" but he wasn't repulsive but shared a lot of similar interests and there was emotional connection coupled with the fact you felt safe around him. Would you go out with him then?
Of course I would! When it comes down to it, it's not all about looks. Of course if you're talking about Tinder, that's a different story because that whole app is really based around looks and is known for hooking up. I met my bf at a party and was instantly attracted to him, but was more-so attracted to his personality/values/intelligence. Of course if I don't find you attractive, I would have to get to know you and talk to you more before I start feeling attracted. Sometimes, all it takes is a confident but humble guy and a good sense of humor to make up for anything he's lacking physically. I've developed crushes on guys I didn't initially find attractive before. On the contrary, I've met some really hot guys that didn't have the best personality and that's an instant turnoff for me.
Uhh yeah no they're almost certainly not fake. I can obviously tell you didn't watch them. Chris doesn't sell anything. I repeat he owns a self help forum and sells nothing all of his stuff is free. It's highly unlikely if you look at these women that they're acting. Also as jade408 said women will tend to "hover" around men they're interested in but usually even in the case of my Ex GF I had to make the first message/move. I just disagree with you entirely sorry dude.
You can disagree with me all you like but it doesn't make your assertions true.
1: I guarantee they are acting. They are probably amateurs though. Ultimately it's just not real.
These stories resolve guys of having to do anything.
This happened to me a few weeks ago. I was at a bar celebrating a friend (a she) her Birthday. Across the bar I see this women smiling, making mutual eye contact. She eventually came up to the bar next to me but she said nothing. As soon as she looked over at me I started asking her how her night was. Asking her what's up etc. she seemed to enjoy talking to me. She had to go back to her friends by the end of the night though I got her number we've gone out once since then and she ending up grinding me and making out with me on the dance floor on the first date a week later. I wasn't focused on getting laid, and admittedly we've only gone out once but have been working on setting up another date. Nothing may come of it, but the point being I would have NEVER seen this girl again were it not 1. I started to the conversation and 2. I got her number.
She may have even put herself in my orbit, but ultimately I had to initiate. So what is your point that this never works and define approach? When she got close to me at the bar even is that an approach? Please explain your logic? I'm not even disagreeing with you entirely, I just find this stuff interesting so I'm curious what you mean? Why do you think your friend was approached so much? Did he have big muscles? What's your logic here?
These stories resolve guys of having to do anything.
This happened to me a few weeks ago. I was at a bar celebrating a friend (a she) her Birthday. Across the bar I see this women smiling, making mutual eye contact. She eventually came up to the bar next to me but she said nothing. As soon as she looked over at me I started asking her how her night was. Asking her what's up etc. she seemed to enjoy talking to me. She had to go back to her friends by the end of the night though I got her number we've gone out once since then and she ending up grinding me and making out with me on the dance floor on the first date a week later. I wasn't focused on getting laid, and admittedly we've only gone out once but have been working on setting up another date. Nothing may come of it, but the point being I would have NEVER seen this girl again were it not 1. I started to the conversation and 2. I got her number.
She may have even put herself in my orbit, but ultimately I had to initiate. So what is your point that this never works and define approach? When she got close to me at the bar even is that an approach? Please explain your logic? I'm not even disagreeing with you entirely, I just find this stuff interesting so I'm curious what you mean? Why do you think your friend was approached so much? Did he have big muscles? What's your logic here?
She went from the opposite side of the bar and sat next to you therefore she approached you. You didn't go to her she came to you. You only started a conversation. As I have said before if women approach you then you know they are interested. If not then they are not. Very simple logic.
You mention signals and the subject is talked to death here but the consensus of guys seems to be they don't get any or they are simply nonexistent. I don't get any and if a woman does smile at me I just think she likes smiling. I don't analyze it or look for a hidden meaning where there isn't one.
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