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This explains a lot, which is why I don't date college or really young women. Most of them are broke, they bring nothing to the table.
great, more of them for me.
i took a young, broke waitress out this weekend. she insisted she pay for drinks. she insisted we go eat sushi, and then she insisted she pay for it. she probably spent $50 on me, all at her insistence. so i'm not really sure about your theory.
A woman has to be a 'feminist' to go Dutch or offer to pay for the guys meal? I haven't even heard that word in years, unless it's from someone like Ann Coulter, raving on TV.
When a woman pays for her half of the meal, there is no obligation and no misunderstanding. Women who demand a man pay for everything are probably high mainteance types. The ones who demand a $300 dinner on Valetines day when the same meal would be $50 the next day when the prices aren't jacked up for a ridiculous "holiday."
A man who makes a homemade card for Valentines day and writes a lovely handwritten letter inside is a million times better than some chump who dishes out hundreds on Valentines day and just does it with the intention of getting laid.
]A woman has to be a 'feminist' to go Dutch or offer to pay for the guys meal? [/b]I haven't even heard that word years, unless it's from someone like Ann Coulter, raving on TV.
When a woman pays for her half of the meal, there is no obligation and no misunderstanding. Women who demand a man pay for everything are probably high mainteance types. The ones who demand a $300 dinner on Valetines day when the same meal would be $50 the next day when the prices aren't jacked up for a ridiculous "holiday."
No, I'm not. Not at all, but I do take care of myself and make sure I'm presentable at all times and prefer a man to match me in that regard.
And just cause a man pays for a meal doesn't mean you have to put out.
I don't understand what the issue is here? If you figure out somewhere along the line that you don't want to sleep with him, then DON'T.
Like I said in previous posts, if I met a guy online, then I would go to a cafe where we both could go "dutch", because we don't know each other. It will be our first time meeting, so I'm good with the dutch thing in THIS regard.
But if I meet a man through "regular" normal channels, then YES, he will be the one paying and no, I won't be "offering" to help. Never, ever heard of such a thing until THIS forum.
No, I'm not. Not at all, but I do take care of myself and make sure I'm presentable at all times and prefer a man to match me in that regard.
And just cause a man pays for a meal doesn't mean you have to put out.
I don't understand what the issue is here? If you figure out somewhere along the line that you don't want to sleep with him, then DON'T.
Like I said in previous posts, if I met a guy online, then I would go to a cafe where we both could go "dutch", because we don't know each other. It will be our first time meeting, so I'm good with the dutch thing in THIS regard.
But if I meet a man through "regular" normal channels, then YES, he will be the one paying and no, I won't be "offering" to help. Never, ever heard of such a thing until THIS forum.
Quick question, if you feel that men are obligated to pay for dates,
is there anything that you believe that women "have to" do simply because they are women?
A woman has to be a 'feminist' to go Dutch or offer to pay for the guys meal? I haven't even heard that word in years, unless it's from someone like Ann Coulter, raving on TV.
When a woman pays for her half of the meal, there is no obligation and no misunderstanding. Women who demand a man pay for everything are probably high mainteance types. The ones who demand a $300 dinner on Valetines day when the same meal would be $50 the next day when the prices aren't jacked up for a ridiculous "holiday."
A man who makes a homemade card for Valentines day and writes a lovely handwritten letter inside is a million times better than some chump who dishes out hundreds on Valentines day and just does it with the intention of getting laid.
Well, this post is beside the point. First, it's a total check of roughly $40, not exactly haute cuisine.
As I stated earlier, it's likely the wholesale cheapness of the guy as exhibited by the $1 tip he dropped. Anybody who would chintz a waitress is not somebody you'd ever want to be involved with in any way, shape, or form.
I would never make a woman pay on the first date. Men, we need to have some standards here!
I guess some guys will say anything to get laid lol.
Seriously, I don't think I ever expected or asked a woman to pay, especially on the first date. However, the idea that I am obligated, under any and all circumstances to pay from some women, is what causes me to think differently about the matter. If a woman I was dating ever told me this, I would either walk out on the date, or I'd probably make sure that the check is split just to prove a point.
It goes hand in hand with the tipping thing too. I'd consider myself a good to excellent tipper, but if a waiter or waitress demands that I tip good, then I'd probably wouldn't simply based on their attitude.
Well, this post is beside the point. First, it's a total check of roughly $40, not exactly haute cuisine.
No kidding.
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Originally Posted by cpg35223
As I stated earlier, it's likely the wholesale cheapness of the guy as exhibited by the $1 tip he dropped. Anybody who would chintz a waitress is not somebody you'd ever want to be involved with in any way, shape, or form.
Completely agree with BOTH points.
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Originally Posted by Ulysses61
A man who makes a homemade card for Valentines day and writes a lovely handwritten letter inside is a million times better than some chump who dishes out hundreds on Valentines day and just does it with the intention of getting laid.
I also agree with this^^. Maybe I am just different....but this sort of thing would mean far far more to me than anything that could be purchased.
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