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So I met this girl on plenty of fish, and we started talking on there. We have talked on the phone several times, and get along GREAT, make each other laugh, etc.
Anyways, she's a swinger, and has turned me on a lot by telling me her experiences.
Problem is, she is 27m has kids, can get sex whenever she wants, so she wants a LTR. I do not, under any circumstance (I am 23). I told her this, and she said she sees no point in meeting up if we want different things. So we stopped talking.
I contacted her again, with a bs story that I changed my mind. She bought it, and now wants to meet.
I am just looking to get laid, I bet she'd be AMAZING in bed with her experience. But I do feel bad about lying to her.
Even if you want just great sex, it has nothing to do with how many you've bedded. The only thing you will get with these kind of people is lots of emotional drama as they're pretty much nuts and emotionally desperate as she is by wanting a ltr with someone she doesn't even know.
Your thread title says it all, Girl wants LTR, I don't. Whats the question??? Move on!
A lot is wrong with this woman. She says she wants a long term relationship but is titilating this guy with stories of her sexual escapades. Dangling a carrot in front of this 23 year old guy like a dog owner holding a piece of steak in front of his hungry animal. If anything she is the user and manipulator in any potential relationship. Typical female response here, that she is "Damaged" or "Vulnerable" and he "Bad" or "Discusting". There is nothing vulnerable about her. She is an adult and can make Adult decisions. She should be ashamed of manipulating this young man.
To the OP. Ive been around more than a little bit in my life and the few times that I have been with woman who were permiscuis like this I have been very disappointed in the sex. Almost like they are disconnnected.
A lot is wrong with this woman. She says she wants a long term relationship but is titilating this guy with stories of her sexual escapades. Dangling a carrot in front of this 23 year old guy like a dog owner holding a piece of steak in front of his hungry animal. If anything she is the user and manipulator in any potential relationship. Typical female response here, that she is "Damaged" or "Vulnerable" and he "Bad" or "Discusting". There is nothing vulnerable about her. She is an adult and can make Adult decisions. She should be ashamed of manipulating this young man.
I don't know the woman involved, so I cannot say what's really wrong with her that on one hand, she's very promiscuous; and yet she wants a LTR, which seems at odds with her history.
I think that some women think that presenting themselves as a "swinger type" makes them more sexually desirable to men. I've known women who pull the "bi-sexual" routine to attract a man, and they did so because they wanted to use sex as a vehicle to get in a LTR, never realizing that this has the opposite effect. I would say that these women are "misguided."
I don't know the woman involved, so I cannot say what's really wrong with her that on one hand, she's very promiscuous; and yet she wants a LTR, which seems at odds with her history.
I think that some women think that presenting themselves as a "swinger type" makes them more sexually desirable to men. I've known women who pull the "bi-sexual" routine to attract a man, and they did so because they wanted to use sex as a vehicle to get in a LTR, never realizing that this has the opposite effect. I would say that these women are "misguided."
True, "bi-sexual", "swinger", "use sex" that all spells "Manipulative" to me.
True, "bi-sexual", "swinger", "use sex" that all spells "Manipulative" to me.
Manipulative? I don't know about that. I would think that any smart woman would realize that these ploys don't work on guys who are serious about a LTR. I mean, if I want a LTR with a man, the last type of person I'm going to be looking for is a self-professed gigolo, right? Or someone who brags about how many orgies he's been in.
I do know a woman sort of like this, and just from getting into her head, she thinks that if she's "outrageous" in the sack, a man will value this and cherish this just as much as he does her company and her devotion. Sadly, it doesn't work like that, and she's ended up with a bunch of loser users who just want a piece of a&&.
I would never call her "manipulative." I would say, however, that she has a lot of self-esteem issues that preclude her from finding a relationship in a healthy way. I would also say that she is, in a way, very naive in her way of thinking.
Manipulative? I don't know about that. I would think that any smart woman would realize that these ploys don't work on guys who are serious about a LTR. I mean, if I want a LTR with a man, the last type of person I'm going to be looking for is a self-professed gigolo, right? Or someone who brags about how many orgies he's been in.
I do know a woman sort of like this, and just from getting into her head, she thinks that if she's "outrageous" in the sack, a man will value this and cherish this just as much as he does her company and her devotion. Sadly, it doesn't work like that, and she's ended up with a bunch of loser users who just want a piece of a&&.
I would never call her "manipulative." I would say, however, that she has a lot of self-esteem issues that preclude her from finding a relationship in a healthy way. I would also say that she is, in a way, very naive in her way of thinking.
Woman:
"self-esteem issues", "naive in her way of thinking"
Men: "bunch of loser users""just want apiece of a&&."
Look at the Stereotypical descriptions of men and woman:
Man is the user, Man is strong. Woman is weak, Woman is the victim. There are enough manipulative woman out there that I'm not going to automatically side with a woman even though I was brought up thinking in terms like that myself.
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