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Old 07-30-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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Did you speak to them after they got drunk?
Yeah, we were all getting drunk. I think they liked the guys with the tattoos and the thumb rings. Again, no judgement. It's the way it should be, I guess.

I think this bothered me profoundly. Like I said, I wasn't really planning to do anything with any of them at all. I really was hoping for a sign that they were interested even if nothing came of it. I think my self-image got frozen sometime years ago and this was an indication that what people see from the outside is not what I see in the mirror.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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Yeah, we were all getting drunk. I think they liked the guys with the tattoos and the thumb rings. Again, no judgement. It's the way it should be, I guess.

I think this bothered me profoundly. Like I said, I wasn't really planning to do anything with any of them at all. I really was hoping for a sign that they were interested even if nothing came of it. I think my self-image got frozen sometime years ago and this was an indication that what people see from the outside is not what I see in the mirror.
So is the issue that the younger women we'rent interested? If they were in their 40's & 50's flocking to you, would that feed your ego just as well?
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:34 PM
 
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The bolded part isn't true of all women, it's only true of ones young enough to be your daughters. There aren't many women out there who want to be dating their parents' peers, even if you were single.
To be honest, I wouldn't be very interested at all in a girl in her early 20's. Late 20's maybe. Early 30's for sure. 40's of course.

But what you say makes sense. Sure. Truth is, I don't really know how old the women there were.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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So is the issue that the younger women we'rent interested? If they were in their 40's & 50's flocking to you, would that feed your ego just as well?
Yeah. Definitely. That would have been fine. I really hope that this doesn't sound like bragging. But the few times I have been to upper scale places where the "older" crowd is - I was shown lots of interest.

I think I assumed that this would be the case here as well. I think I don't remember ever having been "looked through" like this.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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Yeah, we were all getting drunk. I think they liked the guys with the tattoos and the thumb rings. Again, no judgement. It's the way it should be, I guess.

I think this bothered me profoundly. Like I said, I wasn't really planning to do anything with any of them at all. I really was hoping for a sign that they were interested even if nothing came of it. I think my self-image got frozen sometime years ago and this was an indication that what people see from the outside is not what I see in the mirror.
Women in my age group go gaga over older guys with muscles. You're in the wrong town.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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I think this bothered me profoundly. Like I said, I wasn't really planning to do anything with any of them at all. I really was hoping for a sign that they were interested even if nothing came of it. I think my self-image got frozen sometime years ago and this was an indication that what people see from the outside is not what I see in the mirror.
This sounds like an important realization for you. Here's the other thing: at 47, you're 3, or maybe just 2-1//2, years away from 50. 5-0. Impending geezerhood. Time to adjust the self-image, even if you still have a good head of hair and have maintained the illusion of youth via steroids. (Any idea what those do long term? I'm curious. You should be too.)

Working out and staying in shape is good (women do that, too), but sooner or later time will take its toll. In another 10 years, you may be on testosterone and Human Growth Hormone supplements to maintain your drive, normal sleep patterns, and your youthful figure (those are probably incompatible with anabolic steroids. Does your doctor know you're on steroids?) This doesn't mean you won't still be attractive to women, just that you'll be attractive to a whole different age bracket. You can either accept that and age gracefully, or go kicking and screaming into the night. Your call. You could consider your experiment a wake-up call.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Women in my age group go gaga over older guys with muscles. You're in the wrong town.
What's your age group?
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:50 PM
 
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Based on the amount of condoms my father has packed into his car and bathroom and his empty viagra bottles lying around, he's getting quite a bit of action. He's 81 and goes for women who are 15 to 20-some years younger in general. It gets better for guys as they get older.

And yeah, I am going to need some serious therapy after stumbling across his porn, sex toy and condom stashes when I visited last time. THey don't actually qualify as stashes though because they're NOT ACTUALLY HIDDEN.

But um, something to note should you find yourself single - my dad is an absolute A-hole. He acts like he's doing the women a favor. Yeah, I don't get it either, but if you're seeking validation from these women, it likely comes off as unattractive from a whole different direction. There's "older man of mystery," which my dad cultivates (even though it's vaguely ridiculous), and then there's "older man seeking to prove he's not old." That's the scent of fear, dude. If you're trying too hard to stave off the aging (and anabolic steroids would imply that to me), women aren't going to flock to you.

But you're married so really the only woman you should think about being attractive to is your wife. Otherwise, you end up like my father, who gets laid a lot but lives alone in a big house that's crumbling around him, with only his dog to talk to.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Women in my age group go gaga over older guys with muscles. You're in the wrong town.
He's not in the wrong town, he's married, so he's in the wrong mindset of looking for validation from strangers about his worth as a man based solely on physical appearance.
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Old 07-30-2012, 01:55 PM
 
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This sounds like an important realization for you. Here's the other thing: at 47, you're 3, or maybe just 2-1//2, years away from 50. 5-0. Impending geezerhood. Time to adjust the self-image, even if you still have a good head of hair and have maintained the illusion of youth via steroids. (Any idea what those do long term? I'm curious. You should be too.)

Working out and staying in shape is good (women do that, too), but sooner or later time will take its toll. In another 10 years, you may be on testosterone and Human Growth Hormone supplements to maintain your drive, normal sleep patterns, and your youthful figure (those are probably incompatible with anabolic steroids. Does your doctor know you're on steroids?) This doesn't mean you won't still be attractive to women, just that you'll be attractive to a whole different age bracket. You can either accept that and age gracefully, or go kicking and screaming into the night. Your call. You could consider your experiment a wake-up call.
I guess I do see it that way, yes. And trust me, I see 50 coming. Worse, I see 60 as not being that far away either.

Not to turn this into a steroids thread, but I researched steroids for a solid 6 months, every day, before trying it for the first time. I came to realize that the general public and even many doctors are extremely ignorant on the subject. I can understand why. Articles in the press have demonized them severely.

Yes, steroids can be very dangerous if used by people who didn't do their research and/or have very poor judgement. The negative of these drugs are largely dose dependent, and so those who don't know that much might get tempted to take too much and for too long a period at a time. But I found that taking moderate doses for a limited stretch of time (we call those cycles) has been very beneficial to my mood, my health, and of course my physique. But I do take the required time off of them to let my body recover before starting again and I take very low doses compared to professional bodybuilders. I don't look like a huge bulky bodybuilder. I have large, well defined muscles, low bodyfat, but I don't think people would look at me and conclude I take steroids. I do visit the doctor regularly and get my blood checked to make sure all is well.

Does my doc know? No. He'll freak out. Do I know what the long-term effects are. Not really. No research has been done on long term use of steroids. All we have is anecdotal evidence. I did look into that as much as I could. I found that the people who had medical issues later in life seemed to be those that were "on" for years, sometimes decades without stopping and who led otherwise fairly unhealthy lifestyles. Weighing 270 lbs all the time isn't good for the heart even if most of that is muscle.
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