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Old 06-10-2013, 08:47 PM
 
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Society demands you change for women.
Other men demand you change for women.
Women demand you change for women.

You spend years building status, working out, forming social groups but for what? For women that don't give a damn about how much you sacrificed or how hard you have it in life. While you are rejected 50-100 times in a year women will never face such a heart breaking issue. All they do is apply makeup, do nothing and men come there way.
Regarding the above quote: what's keep the women away is your whiny attitude. Nothing makes me run faster, ughhhhhhhhhh. Stop the pity party.

To the OP: what sticks out the most for me is your saying you're socially awkward. This really is something you need to change and not just "for women," but because it's obviously making you unhappy in general. Yes, you do need to learn to feel more at ease in social situations. It's no crime to be socially awkward but changing this isn't changing for someone else, unless you truly are happy as a socially awkward person, which I really just can't believe.

Take some classes, get a lifestyle coach...you can be happy...and once you're happy you probably will be more attractive, which is only the icing on the cake.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:49 PM
 
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The effort one must put in for women is worth it. When I go outside I see so many couples being happy and enjoying themselves.
So you would rather be another drone of society? Live free my boy, Go out and use legal escorts. They look 100 Times better than most women plus the sex is above average. On top of that no drama at all. You can be happy alone living life on your own terms also using escorts on the side.

If you get into a relationship you risk
1. Her getting pregnant.
2. Divorce
3. Her taking your children and money
4. Female hypergamy
5. The state screwing you over
6. She could say you raped her
7. depression from people not understanding you suffering because nobody sides with men.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dauragon C. Mikado View Post
So you would rather be another drone of society? Live free my boy, Go out and use legal escorts. They look 100 Times better than most women plus the sex is above average. On top of that no drama at all. You can be happy alone living life on your own terms also using escorts on the side.

If you get into a relationship you risk
1. Her getting pregnant.
2. Divorce
3. Her taking your children and money
4. Female hypergamy
5. The state screwing you over
6. She could say you raped her
7. depression from people not understanding you suffering because nobody sides with men.
Look, man, all I just want a happy family, someone to come home to.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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Look, man, all I just want a happy family, someone to come home to.
That's a Disney story book fantasy.

Reality is women are hypergamous and judge you based on how perfect/alpha a guy is. Once a girl is done playing around in her youthful years she finds a beta-male slave to protect and provider for her.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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That's a Disney story book fantasy.

Reality is women are hypergamous and judge you based on how perfect/alpha a guy is. Once a girl is done playing around in her youthful years she finds a beta-male slave to protect and provider for her.
So I am a slave just because I want to protect and provide for a woman? I am a slave for wanting a happy family like my relatives and friends have?
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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I do not carry my weight well. Goes into my face and gut.
I had that problem. The swollen face. I call it the mumps face. But that doesn't keep you from getting a girl.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauragon C. Mikado View Post
Society demands you change for women.
Other men demand you change for women.
Women demand you change for women.

You spend years building status, working out, forming social groups but for what? For women that don't give a damn about how much you sacrificed or how hard you have it in life. While you are rejected 50-100 times in a year women will never face such a heart breaking issue. All they do is apply makeup, do nothing and men come there way.

Yeah, what's the point?

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The effort one must put in for women is worth it. When I go outside I see so many couples being happy and enjoying themselves.
See...

Okay, how do you know that they are truly happy and enjoying themselves? What you see of people is the image that they present to the world. It's not always who they truly are. you do not know what happens behind closed doors. I see happy couples too. I also see couples that seemed happy, in rather crazy, even dangerous relationships.

[broken record] You say that your face and your gut are problem areas. They are problem areas to you. You don't like it. As a matter of fact, it really bugs the crap out of you. It drives you crazy and it carries over into that area of your life that you give it power over. Women, and people in general sense something not right with you. I'm not going to say that they sense it as this particular problem, but they sense something off and that is why you don't seem to be having any success in your relationships.

Here's what I did, I took a look at what I didn't like about myself and I took some drastic steps to change it. Guess what, you are going to have to make some drastic changes in order to change what you intend to change. As you are making progress, if you start to like what you see, then before you know it, women will be more receptive to you. I speak from experience. I mean, I could have had a nervous breakdown because of how drastically different people treated me after I made those changes and I have found myself satisfied with those changes.

I'll say it like this, it is not your physical traits, it is how you feel about those physical traits. [/broken record]
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dauragon C. Mikado View Post
So you would rather be another drone of society? Live free my boy, Go out and use legal escorts. They look 100 Times better than most women plus the sex is above average. On top of that no drama at all. You can be happy alone living life on your own terms also using escorts on the side.

If you get into a relationship you risk
1. Her getting pregnant.
2. Divorce
3. Her taking your children and money
4. Female hypergamy
5. The state screwing you over
6. She could say you raped her
7. depression from people not understanding you suffering because nobody sides with men.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauragon C. Mikado View Post
That's a Disney story book fantasy.

Reality is women are hypergamous and judge you based on how perfect/alpha a guy is. Once a girl is done playing around in her youthful years she finds a beta-male slave to protect and provider for her.
There's society for ya.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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So are you saying couples are not happy? I don't know, but the longer I go being lonely, the more miserable my attitude grows, and the more I yearn to have somebody. I don't think I can easily come to terms with being alone.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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So are you saying couples are not happy? I don't know, but the longer I go being lonely, the more miserable my attitude grows, and the more I yearn to have somebody. I don't think I can easily come to terms with being alone.
I'm saying that you don't know if a couple is truly happy, especially if all you see of the couple in question is a casual view of them doing something together (laughing, playing, etc.) Many abusive relationships have happy moments. I seen them first hand.

Now, if you are not happy with yourself, you are not going to be happy with anyone else. You will be most disappointed in someone that you make responsible for your sense of self worth. You have to provide that for yourself.

Now, I'm pretty sure that I said that there are some happy couples, but there are a lot of unhappy couples as well.

This is coming from an "ugly guy" himself.
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Old 06-10-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: At the Lake (in Texas)
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OP, first please don't listen to the likes of Dauragon C. Mikado or the other women haters posting here. Women DO care about a man with a good heart...
Take time to develop yourself, create the person you want to be ... reach out to others while you engage in activities you enjoy...it only takes meeting that one person who is in sync with you to be able to go about creating the family you long for. Don't give up...yes, young girls can be shallow just as young men can be...but a good relationship is worth waiting for...women soon learn that a man's looks are not as important as his heart ... we also know that we can earn our OWN money so many women are not necessarily interested in your wallet...just be a man of integrity, develop yourself as much as you can, and when you talk with others, instead of thinking about being nervous, adopt the attitude of trying to put the other person at ease...that's a good trick for avoiding nervousness in conversation. I wish you the very best!
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