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Many inexperienced young women fall for these PUA types. They get pregnant, the guy leaves them, and they develop emotional baggage. My free online dating market is, like, 80% of women with children.
I bet 75+% of those pregnant women didn't get pregnant by a one night stand from a guy doing anything related to PUA.
Yes, you are ignorant to it. You make it obvious you don't really understand it by how you talk about it, because most points you make are irrelevant or describe a very small population.
It'd be equivalent to me calling all black people crack heads or all women gold diggers. It sounds stupid, just like you subscribing to the idea that all PUA is one way.
You're awfully defensive about this. What do you care what I think about PUA? I think it's BS and ultimately harmful and you think it's some sort of cure-all for men. We both have our opinions.
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Originally Posted by TheHurricaneKid
Many inexperienced young women fall for these PUA types. They get pregnant, the guy leaves them, and they develop emotional baggage. My free online dating market is, like, 80% of women with children.
Yep. Then, those same guys that played them will be complaining in 10 years about how 'all single women have baggage and kids' and how they can't find a decent woman to date.
You're awfully defensive about this. What do you care what I think about PUA? I think it's BS and ultimately harmful and you think it's some sort of cure-all for men. We both have our opinions.
It's not that I'm really defensive, I just think it's ridiculous when people try to debate things they obviously don't know anything about. You have a small close minded view of something, way off and then you try to press it like it's the majority. It just looks stupid, so I call you out. Just like you'd call me out if I started making generalizations about all women.
Not all opinions are correct, but there are opinions that are just wrong. Your opinion is wrong... that's why I defend it. Not that I care that much about PUA.
A bunch of posters say that PUA is a bad thing. PUA people say that PUA is a good thing. I want to see this art for myself. You know, examine the artwork as if it were in a museum. Evaluate it with a rubric as if I was a judge in a dog show. Too often pick-up art videos on youtube are fake. I want to see the real thing.
Why don't you read up on it and try talking to some women?
It's not that I'm really defensive, I just think it's ridiculous when people try to debate things they obviously don't know anything about. You have a small close minded view of something, way off and then you try to press it like it's the majority. It just looks stupid, so I call you out. Just like you'd call me out if I started making generalizations about all women.
Not all opinions are correct, but there are opinions that are just wrong. Your opinion is wrong... that's why I defend it. Not that I care that much about PUA.
My opinion is NOT wrong. It's not wrong at all because I'm going off of DIRECT EXPERIENCE with it. I'm going off of the men I've known that actually subscribe and pay money for PUA stuff, participate in 'the art of seduction' forums and do this stuff regularly in real life.
Now, all of a sudden my direct, first hand experience is wrong?
Yes, there are 'PUA' out there that don't use those techniques, but they're drowned out by the 'negging' 'peacocking' PUAs out there. It's not my fault the 'seduction community' is full of those guys. It's not my fault there are forums of guys bragging about the 'hot chicks they've banged' using these techniques.
Oh...I must just be imagining all of it because some random dude on the internet told me my opinions are wrong and called them stupid
My opinion is NOT wrong. It's not wrong at all because I'm going off of DIRECT EXPERIENCE with it. I'm going off of the men I've known that actually subscribe and pay money for PUA stuff, participate in 'the art of seduction' forums and do this stuff regularly in real life.
Now, all of a sudden my direct, first hand experience is wrong?
Yes, there are 'PUA' out there that don't use those techniques, but they're drowned out by the 'negging' 'peacocking' PUAs out there. It's not my fault the 'seduction community' is full of those guys. It's not my fault there are forums of guys bragging about the 'hot chicks they've banged' using these techniques.
Oh...I must just be imagining all of it because some random dude on the internet told me my opinions are wrong and called them stupid
If I had a sample size < 10 to form most of my opinions, I'd have a lot of wrong ones too. Don't feel bad.
Besides Tyler Infield and his techniques...do you guys have any other PUA vids you're inspired by? I'm curious.
It's all crap. Some people are naturally charming and the rest of us aren't. You can teach social skills, but you can't teach charm. Charm isn't a superpower. It doesn't work on everyone. Just a lot of people. My father is charming. I watched him charm people for years. Most of the time it worked. Sometimes it didn't. He's an attractive man and has an easy manner. You'd never guess he's ex special forces because he's just always so relaxed and has an easy grin. But even he has reached points where he just couldn't convince people to do what he wanted them to. He certainly couldn't convince his daughters to do as we were told.
PUA doesn't work because charm can't be taught. Social skills can be taught, but charm is natural.
PUA certainly works. If it didnt work, thousands of guys wouldnt be spending huge amounts of money on it, decade after decade. You may not like the fact that it works, but that does not change the reality. We do not live in the world you wish it was, we live in the world that it actualy is. The most important things that PUA teaches guys is to get out there, be social and spend time with women, something that guys who have problems dating rarely do. Another thing it teaches them, is that being a nice guy or a white knioght is actualy repulsive and will never net you results you want. Those are all good things and many more, I believe that both men and women should appreciate.
If I had a sample size < 10 to form most of my opinions, I'd have a lot of wrong ones too. Don't feel bad.
SOme people lose all credibility, when it is impossible for them to admit that they might have been wrong for a change.
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