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My logic is fine. Since they are not approaching obviously they do not find me attractive therefore approaching them would be akin to beating a dead horse.
This is probably how many guys feel. Throwing darts at a board blindfolded, or doing anything blindfolded.
Neither does one make much conversational headway by arguing that Plato's disgust with democracy was more of a dejected despondency from Athenian loss of the Peloponnesian, and fear of mob-rule, than fundamental critique of election of representatives; or that Bishop Berkeley's immaterialism is still possible in a purely secular context.
If you expect a girl to know enough about either of those two topics to discuss them intelligently it's no wonder you're having problems. If you want a philosophy nerd fishing in the general pool is going to fail. You've got to find a pool of philosophy nerds to fish in.
My logic is fine. Since they are not approaching obviously they do not find me attractive therefore approaching them would be akin to beating a dead horse.
The horse is alive. You're just assuming that since it didn't come up and ask you for a carrot that it doesn't want a carrot.
I notice that a lot of men on this board place a lot of value (too much imo) on women. It seems like their self worth is tied to getting & talking to women. STOP IT! (Lol). Live you're life, go out and enjoy yourself. Who cares if you get rejected by a 100 women. Take care of you're end and trust me the women will come.
Trust me, I used to do the same thing. Once I started having fun and enjoying myself not caring what women thought then they started noticing and coming up to me. In short, just handle your business, live life and have fun. Life is short.
...I always wonder if it is worth the effort or if I am even the type of man who should [approach]. Please do not tell me about my responsibilities as man. I know more about being a man than most.
This is indeed only something that one can decide for oneself. Unfortunately in this, as in most matters, the consequences for bearing unorthodox opinions are dire. Most societies in most epochs expect the male to approach the female, to announce his presence, to accord targeted attention to her, to plead his candidacy and to motivate her affections. Often this involves a kind of sycophantic self-debasement, but presumably that's what happens when the process goes wrong, when the man is led astray by wayward sexual desire and the woman remains indifferent, sensing desperation. Ideally the attraction will be mutual, but even then, the onus is on the man to initiate.
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