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Old 12-17-2013, 07:53 PM
 
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Not many pages ago a female poster was telling me how women are totally fine about it, not shy to say they do it, and so on. I simply asked if she admitted it and the conversation was over.
You are hallucinating.

I did not say the things in your first sentence. And the reason I stopped replying to you was that you starting acting weird and obsessive.

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It's not a G spot in the same sense as the female G spot (though I have heard that misconception before), but it is something that some men like to have stimulated.
Female G spot and male prostate are made of similar cells, produce similar fluids, and come from the same cell line embryonically, IIRC.

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Men are going to masturbate, whether women like it or not. Men are going to watch to porn, whether women like it or not. Nothing will ever change either of those things. Any discussion about whether masturbation is good or bad, or whether porn is good or bad, is purely academic. You might as well have a debate about whether the sun should keep rising in the east every morning.
You ok, Rogers? You seem off tonight. Certainly you misunderstood the entire point of post 1. Nobody is talking about any of those things.

Post 1 was about a common confusion that men have around women and masturbation, and the conersation has since evolved to general pro-masturbation discussion. Nobody is anti anything, AFAICS.
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Old 12-18-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Female G spot and male prostate are made of similar cells, produce similar fluids, and come from the same cell line embryonically, IIRC.
I just looked it up, and you're right. I've always thought of the "G spot" as the place where the clitoris can be stimulated from the inside, but it appears people use that term to refer to what is essentially the female prostate.

By the way, most of what I found says that the prostate as "G spot" is a myth (which I knew), but that the female equivalent "G spot" is also a myth (which I didn't know, since I incorrectly thought it was the internal part of the clitoris, which is of course very real!).
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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I did not say the things in your first sentence. And the reason I stopped replying to you was that you starting acting weird and obsessive
It could have been any other topic and I would challenge it the same. I’ll give you an example. It’s like those topics where a woman may say that she finds it totally acceptable for a woman to dare herself to ask a guy out and even contribute to expenses, women should do that, not doing it is wrong, etc. Then you ask “So, have you asked a guy out and paid?” only to have her either say that is not right or something. Something contradicting there, huh?

Like I said before, it’s interesting how women can say admitting it is no big deal, everybody admits it, and so on. Then have that person ask and see them either deny it or be ashamed about it. I guess the whole “Admitting it is no big deal” is really a big deal in the end.
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By the way, most of what I found says that the prostate as "G spot" is a myth (which I knew), but that the female equivalent "G spot" is also a myth (which I didn't know, since I incorrectly thought it was the internal part of the clitoris, which is of course very real!).
It seems the G-spot does exist of course but not everybody finds it as pleasurable to be stimulated as others.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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It seems the G-spot does exist of course but not everybody finds it as pleasurable to be stimulated as others.
Correct. The thing that people refer to as a G-spot exists, but the idea of it being some sort of button that creates or enhances orgasm for all people (or is even pleasurable for all people) is a myth. I could have worded it better before.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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I think that's how a lot of women feel, and a lot of men get confused by it.

When a woman expresses discomfort with her guy watching a lot of porn, sometimes the guy thinks she is not enthusiastic about him masturbating. But I think for most women the two have nothing at all to do with each other.

She wants him to get off whenever he feels like it, with or without her, but since she usually doesn't use porn when she masturbates it does not occur to her that he might think the two are connected.

I've seen this conversation play out so many times with my friends. Have some of you had the same experience?

Men, what happens when you try to masturbate without visual stimulation? (Please try to keep your answers PG-13.) Maybe us ladies need to understand.

As often happens when I show up late to the party, the thread got off course. Here's an attempt at putting it back on:

Any woman I'd ever been with that expresses discomfort about me and porn was never because of the porn. It would be because I was masturbating instead of f***ing HER. And I get that. I don't get along well with the kinds of women that would pick a fight over it...but I do understand the frustration there.

To answer the specific question in the OP: It doesn't work as well. Porn helps a LOT. 1) it's a different girl, which is new and exciting. 2) I don't have to work as hard, which is part of the convenience for masturbating in the first place. 3) It might involve behavior that I'm into, but is too taboo for my partner.

I can do it without porn, but I can have sandwiches without mayo, too. But most are better WITH.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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It could have been any other topic and I would challenge it the same. I’ll give you an example. It’s like those topics where a woman may say that she finds it totally acceptable for a woman to dare herself to ask a guy out and even contribute to expenses, women should do that, not doing it is wrong, etc. Then you ask “So, have you asked a guy out and paid?” only to have her either say that is not right or something. Something contradicting there, huh?
I've seen tons of posts by women about their RL experiences asking men out and paying. I've written some, too.

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Like I said before, it’s interesting how women can say admitting it is no big deal, everybody admits it, and so on. Then have that person ask and see them either deny it or be ashamed about it. I guess the whole “Admitting it is no big deal” is really a big deal in the end.
You are projecting, obsessing, and lying. Still.

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Correct. The thing that people refer to as a G-spot exists, but the idea of it being some sort of button that creates or enhances orgasm for all people (or is even pleasurable for all people) is a myth. I could have worded it better before.
There's a myth like that?

Surely any claim that all humans of a certain gender respond the same way to a certain sexual stimulus would just make hearers laugh?
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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I've seen tons of posts by women about their RL experiences asking men out and paying. I've written some, too.

You are projecting, obsessing, and lying. Still.
Sometimes he confuses people ignoring him because the conversation has become obtuse and boring with him being a master of debate.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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As often happens when I show up late to the party, the thread got off course. Here's an attempt at putting it back on:

Any woman I'd ever been with that expresses discomfort about me and porn was never because of the porn. It would be because I was masturbating instead of f***ing HER. And I get that. I don't get along well with the kinds of women that would pick a fight over it...but I do understand the frustration there.

To answer the specific question in the OP: It doesn't work as well. Porn helps a LOT. 1) it's a different girl, which is new and exciting. 2) I don't have to work as hard, which is part of the convenience for masturbating in the first place. 3) It might involve behavior that I'm into, but is too taboo for my partner.

I can do it without porn, but I can have sandwiches without mayo, too. But most are better WITH.
Thank you, Hivemind .

(Funny that you should mention mayo...)
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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There's a myth like that?
Not only is there, it's the only way I've ever heard anyone use the term "G-spot."

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Surely any claim that all humans of a certain gender respond the same way to a certain sexual stimulus would just make hearers laugh?
Sigh. Christ, you're literal sometimes. Not literally ALL humans, but the idea of the G-spot has always been that it is some kind of magical sexual button. This is a myth, and therefore the G-spot as it is popularly understood is a myth, at least according to most of the articles I found online when I briefly looked it up earlier. Here are just a few.

G-Spot Does Not Exist, 'Without A Doubt,' Say Researchers

BBC News - The G-spot 'doesn't appear to exist', say researchers

The G-spot: a modern gynecologic myth. [Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

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Old 12-18-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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I've seen tons of posts by women about their RL experiences asking men out and paying. I've written some, too.
You didn’t understand my example. Sure there may be women out there who do that but the point I tried to make was that those who said they were open minded about not following dating traditions I challenged them with a simple question “Do you ask men out and pay?” only to have them evade answering, changing the topic, or simply saying they wouldn’t do that for contradicting reasons. So I did the same in this thread. Women saying that admitting it is so normal and whatever but someone asks them and what they say contradicts itself when asked. As simple as that.
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You are projecting, obsessing, and lying. Still.
You are in denial. I guess the whole “Women are totally fine admitting it” is not true.
This is what you said at the end of page 5: “Wow, you must hang out with some very strange women if it's something they don't 'admit' to.” That is, women admitting it is normal, women not admitting it is strange. So I simply challenged what you said and, as expected just like other threads/topics, you know what happened.
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