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it is male common sense. Just that some men are deprived of it in their childhood via various BS that is forced upon them. Men shouldn't have to go out of their way to learn how to be men. That's what you get for demonizing masculinity, which is oh so popular in certain circles.
You seem to be awfully obsessed with who is masculine and who is not. I'm guessing an unhappy adolescence is to blame.
I agree with the OP, but we should keep in mind that our whole society is suffused with the ideas of sales and advertising, of reeling-in customers with gimmicks and contortions of the truth, of treating all interactions as potential business transactions. It’s only natural that intimate relationships would be approached with the language of management-consulting and business “best practices”. PUA is just a sophomoric profanation of MBA-type “training”, where businesses are taught to be lean, customer-focused and the like. PUA appeals to young men because they hear the same jargon in all-hands motivational meetings held by the corporate CEO. If it works for the big-boss, if it made the company successful, then why not apply it one’s personal life? Well, because not everything in life can be reduced to a material transaction.
Men test women, too. They like to see how far they can get either sexually or with being disrespectful or obnoxious before a woman puts them in their place. If a woman lets them go too far, she's either a zlut or a pushover. Women often see having to smack them down as being bitchy, but it's really just setting boundaries. This may sound sexist, but it's a lot like dealing with a two-year-old.
Limit setting is a necessary part of relationship to be sure. But I can honestly say I have never had a man that was worth a damn "see how far they can get sexually" or the other behavior you describe.
PUA is about getting a girl to sleep with you. It does not teach you much if anything about relationships. Just so you know, most guys care about getting laid...not the relationship stuff.
I was unaware that they'd all appointed you their spokesman.
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but since you bring it up .. my brother, who is a doctor, seems to intuitively understand PUA when i've explained it to him. his attitude towards it is along the lines of: "it sounds like male common sense." His wife -- also a doctor -- doesn't understand it as well. (and she's a psychiatrist). Her understanding of "the male perspective" seems to be pretty limited, despite being extremely intelligent.
Soo... males who need these thousands of dollars in courses simply lack "male common sense?"
Your brother's words, not mine.
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You seem to be awfully obsessed with who is masculine and who is not. I'm guessing an unhappy adolescence is to blame.
Oh, give me a break. Im guessing you haven't been laid in awhile, so maybe today is your chance. Maybe you don't even have to beg for it, for a change.
Thank you very much. Im just willing to say, what all the other men in your life aren't. Oh, this world is of so many prissy feminine dudes.
I dunno. My husband is pretty damned manly. He fixes cars and chops wood and builds things. He can even grow a full beard.
I dunno too many feminine dudes. I mean, I know some gay guys who are effeminate... and maybe a few straights, but not many. Even most of my gay male friends are pretty butch, come to think of it.
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Thank you very much. Im just willing to say, what all the other men in your life aren't. Oh, this world is of so many prissy feminine dudes.
Are you projecting? I'm guessing you're the one dealing with prissy feminine issues. Have you confronted your inner gay man yet?
Guess what buddy boy, you speak for no man other than yourself. So all this mangina, feminine yada yada crap you're spouting is all about you. You're obsessed with your lack of masculinity
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