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Old 12-24-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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As long as he never, ever referred to me as "his lady." **shudder**

I don't know, it seems like a big production. If you want to do this and have it NOT seem like you're buttering her up, make sure you do it fairly regularly from Day 1, not just out of the blue.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:15 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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As long as he never, ever referred to me as "his lady." **shudder**

I don't know, it seems like a big production. If you want to do this and have it NOT seem like you're buttering her up, make sure you do it fairly regularly from Day 1, not just out of the blue.



Oh, and btw, the listening-and-talking thing, with no distractions, no TV/computer, etc., really should be daily, for the health of the relationship. There should be some built-in time to check in with each other and bond that way.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:20 PM
 
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lol I think she means, what did you do wrong that you had to do all that special stuff for her, as if you had to get back in good with her. Like when men give flowers after a big argument.

Just guessing.
Read the bottom paragraph of my original post. This idiot ex-friend said it was "wimpy and unmanly". I'd like to know, how the hell so?
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:26 PM
 
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Now folks, I know that it's Christmas eve (and I'm in the process of baking cookies. Yes, I said baking cookies (and I'm a man!) But I need the opinion of the fine women here:

What do you think of a man who, at the end of a day, will do the following spontaneously - not every day, but once in a while...

1) Tells his lady to relax, while he makes a good dinner; serves said dinner with (surprise!) a glass of wine

2) After dinner, he clears away the dishes. He lets his lady relax while he cleans up, takes out the garbage, etc.

3) He may even serve dessert. Repeats the cleaning process for the dessert dishes.

4) After the meal, engages in giving his lady a relaxing neck/shoulder massage. Talks with her, no TV, no phone, no internet, e-mail, etc. NO distractions! Just he and she. Making his lady the one main, principal focus of attention. Listening as well as talking!

The reason I ask this is because a now ex-friend (female) made the remark that, "That's so wimpy and not masculine!" Mind you, this ex-friend was in an abusive marriage and likes "bad boys". I have a "bad boy" mentality myself (outspoken, temperamental) but I'd never hit a woman! Ever! Now, isn't what I mentioned above what a woman would appreciate???

Thanks in advance, and Merry Christmas!
I would love, love, love it! More so if done more than once in a while!

As for your ex-friend, I don't think she could become the poster child for healthy relationships.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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As long as he never, ever referred to me as "his lady." **shudder**

I don't know, it seems like a big production. If you want to do this and have it NOT seem like you're buttering her up, make sure you do it fairly regularly from Day 1, not just out of the blue.
^^^agree about "his lady". Please. Sounds like someone tries too hard. I picture a fella with a combover saying it.

OP the scenario you described would make me terminate the relationship.
I like really macho old school males. Provider/protector types.
I do expect a man to do "his share" but that consists of outside chores, car maintenance, home repair, traditional man stuff. THAT stuff is swoony. Toolbelts, not aprons are hot on a guy.

When I was dating I found VERY FEW manly guys. Most were of the type in your icky scenario; wimpy buttkissers trying too hard to do what Lifetime tells them they should.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:42 PM
 
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^^^agree about "his lady". Please. Sounds like someone tries too hard. I picture a fella with a combover saying it.

OP the scenario you described would make me terminate the relationship.
I like really macho old school males. Provider/protector types.
I do expect a man to do "his share" but that consists of outside chores, car maintenance, home repair, traditional man stuff. THAT stuff is swoony. Toolbelts, not aprons are hot on a guy.

When I was dating I found VERY FEW manly guys. Most were of the type in your icky scenario; wimpy buttkissers trying too hard to do what Lifetime tells them they should.
Ok but say that guy serving dinner is the protector type involved in manual labor, who decides for a night to serve...I won't say "his lady". I need another description. His woman.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:47 PM
 
Location: NY>FL>VA>NC>IN
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Nah not my cuppa.
Now I DO like him to show the love, just not by serving dinner.

Make me something nifty from wood, make sure my car is cleaned of snow, open jars, kill insects, carry me through gravel parking lots that are hard to walk in in heels (this was actually done for me *swoon*)...lotsa manly ways to make a gal feel appreciated!
One ex BF put blue lights up along my roof for Christmas, as a surprise, I was not home, came home to the blue lights. That was awesome.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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What do you think of a man who, at the end of a day, will do the following spontaneously - not every day, but once in a while...

1) Tells his lady to relax, while he makes a good dinner; serves said dinner with (surprise!) a glass of wine

2) After dinner, he clears away the dishes. He lets his lady relax while he cleans up, takes out the garbage, etc.

3) He may even serve dessert. Repeats the cleaning process for the dessert dishes.

4) After the meal, engages in giving his lady a relaxing neck/shoulder massage. Talks with her, no TV, no phone, no internet, e-mail, etc. NO distractions! Just he and she. Making his lady the one main, principal focus of attention. Listening as well as talking!
You say its spontaneous, but the way it's written makes it fairly clear that it's a rare special occasion that was preplanned, which makes it goal-oriented.


"Manly" is in the eye of the beholder. Some women will go for it; some won't.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Here and There
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^^^agree about "his lady". Please. Sounds like someone tries too hard. I picture a fella with a combover saying it.

OP the scenario you described would make me terminate the relationship.
I like really macho old school males. Provider/protector types.
I do expect a man to do "his share" but that consists of outside chores, car maintenance, home repair, traditional man stuff. THAT stuff is swoony. Toolbelts, not aprons are hot on a guy.

When I was dating I found VERY FEW manly guys. Most were of the type in your icky scenario; wimpy buttkissers trying too hard to do what Lifetime tells them they should.
Interesting. I also am attracted to manly/protector types, and don't find this scenario wimpy. I dated an air force fighter pilot who would cook dinner occasionally and also give me foot rubs and back massages. He was very manly and not a wimpy buttkisser at all. He also never wore an apron or watched lifetime, but he did look sexy in his flightsuit.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I dunno, my husband will do any one of those on different days of the week, as do I.

I think it's more of a problem that someone wants a pat on the head for it.

But good for you for learning.
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