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Quote: Originally Posted by done38 You ever notice how women say attraction is subjective but when men say they want someone they're attracted to it means he wants a ten.
Not a 10 bro because they are few in numbers and again it's based on perspective. I myself am looking for a woman I find attractive so that if we ever become intimate I would be on her real quick and wont stop because I can't get it up because she is far from my expectations.
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Originally Posted by JBT1980 Yeah when I said I need to at least be somewhat attracted physically that somehow turned into assuming I'm only after gorgeous women lol
Even if you were it would be totally ok because you are entitled to do as you please.
As to the boldfaced quote seen above: I have found over the course of life thus far that it is not solely that the woman must appear to be utterly arousing at the very sight of her (to keep ourselves aroused and then ultimately pleased); it is just as much how well and passionately she performs and uses what she's got to be pleasing. I have been with some women who were "regular" or "semi-regular" in looks and who were quite pleasing. And one women I'd known that other men wouldn't consider being intimate with was a very passionate lovemaker who performed with great technique and passion. And was quite affectionate and a fine kisser. Hence she was very very pleasing to me.
In summary, an earnest desire to please you and investment in practicing and using good technique with you can make all the difference. I have been with other women who were that much more "standardly 'good-looking'" and yet who were rather passive or selfish in bed. I'd wonder "Why are they with me if they don't have the motivation and wherewithal to want to be pleasing to the person they are with? Just stay alone if you don't have it in you to be a responsive and giving partner!" And through my experiences over time, I came to see and realize that it is NOT just what you look like but EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY conveying the apparent and demonstrated desire to be reciprocal, responsive, and pleasing to and with the person you are with. I wish I could give more descriptive details here (to be more illuminating and impactful with what I am trying to share) but we are directed to keep it PG-13 here.
Of course that is all true. But you are talking to dudes who have never touched a woman. They think they know everything about sex (from porn) but they will never get what you are saying until they come out of their own heads and start to think about giving rather than taking.
Why don't you all just go to your local Comicon? There must be tons of prospective dates there.
I'm not being facetious. It must happen, right?
And funny though this may sound, in costume, you may have more bravery to approach. That's what the masques of the old days were for.
I've been to comicon and that's not a place to meet women there have been a complaints of the guys being creepers there. I've never gotten a date from a woman there.
i agree with you, I notice(not from my own experience) that very beautiful women are known to be selfish in bed because they feel like the prize moreover I have girls say that they would dump the guy and get a new one if he didn't like it. When you lift weights at the gym and hear women talk near the womens bathroom lol They honestly feel like looking good is enough and some put restrictions which sounds terrible that would be a turn off. My future girl needs to be willing to do everything because lord knows I will.
(Per the boldfaced quote of yours seen above): As will I. I'd so appreciate and value having an appreciative, responsive and reciprocal woman to be "as one" with that a single day wouldn't go by in which she truly didn't know how much I truly loved and valued her (and would be demonstrative about it as well). I could hold & kiss her for hours (maybe even days) and say or think "Thank you!" to her (I would be thinking to myself, if not outright expressing it to her at times "Thank you for being who you are and what you are!"). I would never just "take her for granted" (thinking as though she is easily replaceable and disposable to me, unlike some of the women you've heard of or overhead who would think or even outright state that they will be however they like to be [even selfish & ungiving of herself] and, if the man is displeased with this, they would "dump the guy and get a new one if he didn't like it"). A woman for whom I so value her character as I have described would never experience me "just taking her for granted". I would act as through every single day, I have to earn the privilege of continuing to be with such a wonderful women and have her be devoted to and share her life with me.
Isn't what I described above what you'd think most (if not nearly all?) women would want of a man? Or at least women of wholesome, good character in their own right?
Speaking as a man but addressed to ALL woman and men: If you truly can't find it in yourselves to consistently be an appreciative, responsive and reciprocal partner with an opposite-sex person that you are to share your life with (and being so as a way-of-life, not just "on occasion"), then just simply stay unpartnered. Why ruin someone else's life with this one and only life that he or she has to live by having them relationally committed or even wedded to a person too often prone to being a selfish narcissistic person?
(Per the boldfaced quote of yours seen above): As will I. I'd so appreciate and value having an appreciative, responsive and reciprocal woman to be "as one" with that a single day wouldn't go by in which she truly didn't know how much I truly loved and valued her (and would be demonstrative about it as well). I could hold & kiss her for hours (maybe even days) and say or think "Thank you!" to her (I would be thinking to myself, if not outright expressing it to her at times "Thank you for being who you are and what you are!"). I would never just "take her for granted" (thinking as though she is easily replaceable and disposable to me, unlike some of the women you've heard of or overhead who would think or even outright state that they will be however they like to be [even selfish & ungiving of herself] and, if the man is displeased with this, they would "dump the guy and get a new one if he didn't like it"). A woman for whom I so value her character as I have described would never experience me "just taking her for granted". I would act as through every single day, I have to earn the privilege of continuing to be with such a wonderful women and have her be devoted to and share her life with me.
Isn't what I described above what you'd think most (if not nearly all?) women would want of a man? Or at least women of wholesome, good character in their own right?
Speaking as a man but addressed to ALL woman and men: If you truly can't find it in yourselves to consistently be an appreciative, responsive and reciprocal partner with an opposite-sex person that you are to share your life with (and being so as a way-of-life, not just "on occasion"), then just simply stay unpartnered. Why ruin someone else's life with this one and only life that he or she has to live by having them relationally committed or even wedded to a person too often prone to being a selfish narcissistic person?
Amazing bro, you just summarized my whole ex marriage. This is how I was to this person and there was a short time she was this way with me however sometimes that's not even enough. Some women may want more, whether it may be money, freedom to do as they wish(which includes fornication, being in places you shouldn't while in a relationship), etc. Sadly some people are in it for themselves, this would apply to some people on this forum and many outside. I myself can say that if I'm being mistreated I communicate before I start reaping some kind of justice aka revenge however that's not the right way either. The problem with with many people including myself is that we take things in life for granted and we don't realize how difficult it is to find all these things you summarized.
he was shopping at Walmart and approached this woman and he got rejected so he left her alone. However, the woman made a complaint against him accusing him of harassment but he was innocent. Since then, he won't even speak to a woman because he is afraid of going to jail because he harmlessly flirted with a woman once.
Where the hell does one 'make a complaint' against a guy who approaches them for a date at Walmart?
Did she go to customer service? Ask to speak with a manager? A manager came running out right away, called for 'your friend' over the Walmart intercom: "Will that one guy who just said something to the lady here come up front now, we have a charge of harassment against you." Your friend just knew they must have meant him, no other guy could have said something to a someone, so he goes to wherever the intercom voice is coming from. There was then an impromptu mock jury trial with the people waiting inline at customer service as the jury. The accuser lady said: "Yes that's him, he has harassed me over in the underwear aisle." Your Friend said, "I did approach her, but I then left when rejected, I am innocent."
The jury found him innocent. He was allowed to leave and decided this fruitcake represents all women, he will never talk to one again, or risk going straight to jail. Because that's how life works.
part of the reason its on tv is because its unusual.
lol! Yeah, as if they knew in advance how the audience would respond, or they hand-picked the audience in advance, to plan a show around this "unusual" response. The whole thing was orchestrated.
Get a grip.
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