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Old 04-14-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948 View Post
does not sound like the men i know or like me.
It's these specific men who have to be concerned with prenups. Otherwise, they would not have had their wives home raising the children while losing precious career time-these women losing precious career time. It's a choice these guys made and then they want to irresponsibly skip out.

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its all about the kids and should be in this we agree. the burning question is how is divorce helping children?
my advocacy for prenup will reduce divorce. it will take the candy out of the experience.
Divorce rarely helps children, even in the crappiest of marriages. Your advocacy for prenup's is just a ruse. Ultimately, it advocates poor choices and the wrong people marrying to begin with.

 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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It's not that men don't want to take care of their kids. Most of the time, mothers purposely will do anything to keep the father out of their children's lives.
Baloney. Men who complain about child support most certainly do not care about their children. The average CS payment is ~$300-400/mo. That's nothing when most have cell phones, cable TV, and random toys. Don't fool yourself. They don't care.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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Most of the time, mothers purposely will do anything to keep the father out of their children's lives.
This is often true. Kids are caught in the middle of two estranged parents who point fingers at each other. Sometimes, kids are smart and can figure out the real story. Other times, they are incorrectly swayed by a parent to dislike another parent. Custody is vested in women. Again, I wouldn't want to be bothered with a kid that didn't come to my breakfast table until they hit college age, more or less. Neither would most decent guys. That's why they don't want to gamble on kids.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:43 PM
 
Location: southern california
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It's these specific men who have to be concerned with prenups. Otherwise, they would not have had their wives home raising the children while losing precious career time-these women losing precious career time. It's a choice these guys made and then they want to irresponsibly skip out.

Divorce rarely helps children, even in the crappiest of marriages. Your advocacy for prenup's is just a ruse. Ultimately, it advocates poor choices and the wrong people marrying to begin with.
a ruse to what end? what sinister plot is hidden in both parties protecting their interests and that of the children??? your prior posts say women are now rich and powerful & marry down and now you are saying they are helpless and at home, i dont think u can have it both ways friend. what i like about prenup is its fair it establishes a level playing field.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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Again, I wouldn't want to be bothered with a kid that didn't come to my breakfast table until they hit college age, more or less. Neither would most decent guys. That's why they don't want to gamble on kids.
That's very much the case.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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a ruse to what end? what sinister plot is hidden in both parties protecting their interests and that of the children???
You are promoting financial un-equals getting together and marrying. Why? To what end? There is no need for it.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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I knew you were a sock based on your post count. Then I figured out who you were. Although, clearly you do care what is being said here to come back after a ban.
Ive known you were a lame from the time this thread started, but thats neither here nor there, so I dont know why your personal opinion of me or anyone else is to mean anything. And just to clarify your statement: I never said I didnt care what is being said here. I said I dont care what you in particular say, or how you feel in general. Thats all. The world is bigger than yourself dollface.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Katonah, NY
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This is often true. Kids are caught in the middle of two estranged parents who point fingers at each other. Sometimes, kids are smart and can figure out the real story. Other times, they are incorrectly swayed by a parent to dislike another parent. Custody is vested in women. Again, I wouldn't want to be bothered with a kid that didn't come to my breakfast table until they hit college age, more or less. Neither would most decent guys. That's why they don't want to gamble on kids.
You don't understand parenthood at all. I can't imagine a father saying the bolded. He'd be one crappy father.

Once children are in the picture - everything changes. Some of my friends had divorced parents and some of my friends had parents that should have gotten divorced - and honestly - how they felt about it all varied so much from person to person. Some of my friends were happy their parents got divorced because living with the two of them together was unbearable. Some of my friends took the divorce really hard. Some of them wished their parents had gotten divorced because their home life was awful.

My parents had a wonderful marriage. Seeing their example showed me what I wanted out of my life. And hopefully, our son will learn the same from his father and me. We put our family first. Divorce is not an option. My husband and I do not take our marriage or our family lightly.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:52 PM
 
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Ive known you were a lame from the time this thread started, but thats neither here nor there, so I dont know why your personal opinion of me or anyone else is to mean anything. And just to clarify your statement: I never said I didnt care what is being said here. I said I dont care what you in particular say, or how you feel in general. Thats all. The world is bigger than yourself dollface.
Ok, right back at you. As if anyone here gives a fig. You're crazy if you think otherwise. Nobody cares about you. Nobody cares about me. Nobody cares about the next poster. Go have a parade with yourself.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: southern california
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You are promoting financial un-equals getting together and marrying. Why? To what end? There is no need for it.
i am promoting men defending themselves from unfair divorce laws. i am defending marriage trying to do something to reduce divorce so children dont suffer. i am trying to reduce prison population. and for this i am subjected to much abuse and ridicule on these threads. shame shame on those who benefit from the destruction of american homes and families.
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