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I realize it is pointless to try to reason with you, C34 . . . but most of the world who are theistic and those of us who have encountered God . . . do not have a problem with His reality. It is YOUR reality and the irrational and ludicrous things you believe ABOUT God and reality that people find so absurd!!
And yet my reality which you call ludicrous is in full agreement with the Bible. So naturally it is the Biblical account I believe you consider ludicrous. Just as I believe it is the Biblical God you find ludicrous as well. And yet, how is it that a boy of four could have a vision confirming such an account? And confirming it even before he knew what God, or the Bible was?
And yet my reality which you call ludicrous is in full agreement with the Bible. So naturally it is the Biblical account I believe you consider ludicrous. Just as I believe it is the Biblical God you find ludicrous as well. And yet, how is it that a boy of four could have a vision confirming such an account? And confirming it even before he knew what God, or the Bible was?
You know there's an old saying: a revelation is one on one, everything else after that is hearsay........ so everything that you say is just hearsay and your opinion...... only.
Those who have "sight" (right-brain sense), CAN see God...and do. That would be MOST people.
Those who don't have "sight" (right-brain deficiency), CAN'T see God. That is the FEW.
By your "logic"...You claim the case can be argued for NOBODY being able to see something...because SOME people are blind, and can't.
What is true...is true...regardless of what anyone thinks, or has to say about it.
And it is TRUE that most people can "see" God. I KNOW...because I'm one of the majority that can. If you don't believe me...ask around.
I call bs...You cannot see god unless you are either dreaming or hallucinating ...Nobody can.
If we go along with your ad populum assertions, then the dominant species on earth are insects... At any time, it is estimated that there are some 10 quintillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000) individual insects alive, and I believe they will still be here long after humans are extinct.
I call bs...You cannot see god unless you are either dreaming or hallucinating ...Nobody can.
If we go along with your ad populum assertions, then the dominant species on earth are insects... At any time, it is estimated that there are some 10 quintillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000) individual insects alive, and I believe they will still be here long after humans are extinct.
Call whatever you want.
In my analogy, "to see" = "right-brain sense"...not "vision" as in "seeing" with your eyes. But then...you know that.
You are like a blind man, telling all the sighted people, they are "dreaming or hallucinating"...when they tell you they are capable of sight, and can see things you can't.
The fact the vast majority of people can see...and very few are blind...is just my stating the facts of the matter.
Same with most people having sufficient right-brain power to "see" God...with few lacking it.
That you don't believe it (because you are one of the "blind")...doesn't change it's "truth".
Not, "nobody can"...IN FACT, "most can"...you just aren't one of them.
The way the ratio falls...isn't an ad pop assertion...just the facts of how the ratio falls. It IS, what it IS.
Furthermore...it doesn't matter if only one in a billion could see...and all but seven people were blind...that wouldn't negate the fact of the possession of the power of sight in the handful that had it...and that sight IS possible, and vision DOES exist.
Insects outnumbering humans doesn't have diddly-squat to do with it.
In my analogy, "to see" = "right-brain sense"...not "vision" as in "seeing" with your eyes. But then...you know that.
You are like a blind man, telling all the sighted people, they are "dreaming or hallucinating"...when they tell you they are capable of sight, and can see things you can't.
The fact the vast majority of people can see...and very few are blind...is just my stating the facts of the matter.
Same with most people having sufficient right-brain power to "see" God...with few lacking it.
That you don't believe it (because you are one of the "blind")...doesn't change it's "truth".
Not, "nobody can"...IN FACT, "most can"...you just aren't one of them.
The way the ratio falls...isn't an ad pop assertion...just the facts of how the ratio falls. It IS, what it IS.
Furthermore...it doesn't matter if only one in a billion could see...and all but seven people were blind...that wouldn't negate the fact of the possession of the power of sight in the handful that had it...and that sight IS possible, and vision DOES exist.
Insects outnumbering humans doesn't have diddly-squat to do with it.
You are beginning to parrot your hero, Mystic more every day... I am right brain dominant, but I can recognize reality when I see it, and differentiate it from imaginary things like dreams...You will never convince me that you or anyone else (not even one in a billion) can see any gods, except in your "picture books".
Sorry that your truth is nothing but a fallacy...Sad how some folks are so gullible and easily lead.
I call bs...You cannot see god unless you are either dreaming or hallucinating ...Nobody can.
This is debated, but as I understand it I'd hesitantly agree. The full or true vision of God is, as I recall, reserved to the afterlife.
Although I would say people do hear God, which you would certainly not agree toward either. I do consider human experience and history to lead to the conclusion people have at least communicated with or been inspired by "something." (We do not know that insects have never heard God as we can't really ask them, although that's probably another red-herring issue anyway)
However I'd concede it's perfectly possible to distrust humans in favor of some elite and be correct to do so. As is sometimes stated most people throughout history believed the Sun revolved around the Earth, at least in some fashion. So distrust of human testimony and experience can be right. It doesn't mean it must be right, but I'm sure you know that.
You are beginning to parrot your hero, Mystic more every day... I am right brain dominant, but I can recognize reality when I see it, and differentiate it from imaginary things like dreams...You will never convince me that you or anyone else (not even one in a billion) can see any gods, except in your "picture books".
Sorry that your truth is nothing but a fallacy...Sad how some folks are so gullible and easily lead.
If you think noting my subscription to what I have learned from Mystic is some kind of "slight" to me...you are wrong...AGAIN.
And if you think it makes me feel somehow diminished to label Mystic a genre of "hero" to me...you are wrong about that too.
You would be greatly improved to be a tenth as intelligent...and a hundredth as perceptive.
I'm sorry that you are "blind". If your right-brain is what's dominant...weeeeeeell...what can I say?...I wish you all the best.
And what can be concluded?: Some people just don't know...what they don't know.
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