Fundy county clerk ordered to issue marriage licenses (bless, Muslim, quote)
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I do not know the faith of my County Clerk, or any other public official for that matter. Do you?
It seems I will be asking if those future politicians will be following the law, or their personal choice of faith. I will cast my ballot with that information in mind.
As a Canadian I find the electing of officals doing what seems like public servants duties seems wierd. How do you campaign for the job, "unlike my opponent I will not have the forms printed double sided", "I pledge that if elected my deputy clerks will smile more often". I do not get it.
Regardless there must be more to fullfilling one's oath other than to not take part in a duel. When I worked for governments neither my religion nor my history of duels was ever asked. I do not even know the political leanings of my mayor or councillors as those are non partisan elected positions here. But I do expect when I walk into a civic, provincial or federal office that I am served by a public servant who does not use their religious or political views when serving me. Nor do I expect that same public servant will refuse to serve someone because they are gay, straight, religious or non religious.
This clerk was given the opportunity to allow any one of her deputies to serve the gay clients and she refused and the deputies stated that they were too afraid of her to comply with the law. She took away the legal rights from same sex couples and the legal rights and obligations from her clerks and forced her personal religious beliefs onto her staff. And when the judge used the law instead of his personal relgious convictions in a legal matter, it is viewed as an attack on Christians. This might be the worse of the defence of her, the attack on the judge for being anti Christian when he is personally a Christian who does not agree with SSM but for some reason still thinks that he should do the job he is paid to do. To me that is an attack on a Christian for following the law as the relgious think that the law is only there to keep non Christians in line with their beleifs but should not be used against them in the same way.
I quit posting in Great Debates because every post of mine would be deleted. Never could get a reason why. I was even banned for a while because of my screen name, same one I am using now.
Mensaguy posted a bit ago that the problem is corrected, so we don't have to speculate on the existential meaning of this particular disappearing post anymore.
As a Canadian I find the electing of officals doing what seems like public servants duties seems wierd. How do you campaign for the job, "unlike my opponent I will not have the forms printed double sided", "I pledge that if elected my deputy clerks will smile more often". I do not get it.
You are right, there is not much room for differentiation for these low-level jobs. About all you can do is suggest that you'll be a bit faster, have slightly shorter lines, and yes, perhaps be more pleasant in doing your work, buff up the woodwork and dust things more often, whatever.
In this particular case it's a small / rural county where the same family has had someone(s) elected to these posts for the past couple of generations so there must be some kind of nudge-wink understanding that the job is your family's birthright so long as you don't tick off the constituents in some unspoken way. Right now Kim is the county clerk and her son is the deputy county clerk. Her mother had the job before her. So it goes.
As a Canadian I find the electing of officals doing what seems like public servants duties seems wierd. How do you campaign for the job, "unlike my opponent I will not have the forms printed double sided", "I pledge that if elected my deputy clerks will smile more often". I do not get it.
Regardless there must be more to fullfilling one's oath other than to not take part in a duel. When I worked for governments neither my religion nor my history of duels was ever asked. I do not even know the political leanings of my mayor or councillors as those are non partisan elected positions here. But I do expect when I walk into a civic, provincial or federal office that I am served by a public servant who does not use their religious or political views when serving me. Nor do I expect that same public servant will refuse to serve someone because they are gay, straight, religious or non religious.
This clerk was given the opportunity to allow any one of her deputies to serve the gay clients and she refused and the deputies stated that they were too afraid of her to comply with the law. She took away the legal rights from same sex couples and the legal rights and obligations from her clerks and forced her personal religious beliefs onto her staff. And when the judge used the law instead of his personal relgious convictions in a legal matter, it is viewed as an attack on Christians. This might be the worse of the defence of her, the attack on the judge for being anti Christian when he is personally a Christian who does not agree with SSM but for some reason still thinks that he should do the job he is paid to do. To me that is an attack on a Christian for following the law as the relgious think that the law is only there to keep non Christians in line with their beleifs but should not be used against them in the same way.
I think she should be in the Civil Service system. Take tests, get promoted in grade, join a union.
Yep, she cracked under the pressure and agreed to the same accommodation that the judge offered her to start with.
Haven't seen that reported anywhere.
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