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Old 12-27-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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No...if it's in the Bible, it's Scripture.

If it's not in the Bible, it's not Scripture. It really doesn't matter if I or anyone else likes it or not.

Well...if both Jesus and Paul address it, and Paul does indeed give us a more clear understanding.....then yah....both texts are inspired.

Or just read the Scriptures and see what they say, then believe them?
Give me a break. Both of us know the gospels were written based on Paul's "revelation", and enhanced the stories the further away from the cusp of were BCE changed to CE they moved.
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Old 12-27-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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It's silly to use Revelation like that, there is nothing literal in it.
No kidding. It's like whoever the author was of that of the bible had smoked some real high THC content hash, and then "gave 'er snooze " into fantasyland.
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Old 12-27-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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Isn't that what it means by believing it? Isn't that what it means to be honest to our belief that it's God's Word? Why would one believe it is God's Word and then choose to ignore it?
Yes, faith teaches you WHAT to think, not HOW.
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Old 12-27-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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But no one is saying she can't be a leader. She's certainly qualified to serve in many leadership roles, just not as pastor. There are many jobs I may be qualified for but I couldn't do simply because of my gender.
Name one. Just one.
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Old 12-27-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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I already gave several. My church's Treasurer is a woman. We also have women teaching Sunday School, serving with events, VBS, etc . In my last church where I was a member, the children's ministry leader was a woman. The ministry assistant to the senior pastor was a woman. She did all the graphics, designed the bulletin, etc. Women served on the worship team. The church I'm a pastor of doesn't have a worship team, but we do have a woman playing the piano. I would add that my wife does announcements before the church service begins. We've had women sing in church, as well.
Vizio, do you have any ideal funny it sounds that you have a woman playing the piano, and that's your idea of equality? That's just crying out to be a meme!
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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No kidding. It's like whoever the author was of that of the bible had smoked some real high THC content hash, and then "gave 'er snooze " into fantasyland.
Go and study the Talmud and the comings and goings of the fall Holy days. Go and read the appointed prayers and study everything a priest does from Rosh Hashanah to Simchat Torah and you wouldn't think anyone was high. You can write Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur on just about every page of Revelation but a person who does not know the prayers and the comings and goings of the temple during the fall Holy days cannot read Revelation. It is written to Jews who keep the feasts of Messiah and who know all the traditions and rituals which are many.


If there is silence in heaven for 30 min, what has just taken place?


This would be obvious to a person who knows what the priests is doing and then what the people do.
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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I already gave several. My church's Treasurer is a woman. We also have women teaching Sunday School, serving with events, VBS, etc . In my last church where I was a member, the children's ministry leader was a woman. The ministry assistant to the senior pastor was a woman. She did all the graphics, designed the bulletin, etc. Women served on the worship team. The church I'm a pastor of doesn't have a worship team, but we do have a woman playing the piano. I would add that my wife does announcements before the church service begins. We've had women sing in church, as well.
I mean a job you cannot do because of your gender than a woman can...

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But no one is saying she can't be a leader. She's certainly qualified to serve in many leadership roles, just not as pastor. There are many jobs I may be qualified for but I couldn't do simply because of my gender.
NAME ONE JOB YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR BUT CANNOT DO BECAUSE OF YOUR GENDER? AND being a MOTHER is not one...
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Old 12-27-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I mean a job you cannot do because of your gender than a woman can...



NAME ONE JOB YOU ARE QUALIFIED FOR BUT CANNOT DO BECAUSE OF YOUR GENDER? AND being a MOTHER is not one...
Not gonna happen
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Not gonna happen
Agreed. This is very likely one of those threads that Viz "forgets" about. It tends to happen whenever he gets his butt handed to him.
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Old 12-27-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Agreed. This is very likely one of those threads that Viz "forgets" about. It tends to happen whenever he gets his butt handed to him.
Shhhhh... You're telling his secrets.
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