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I'm starting to see a pattern. If anyone dares question anything about evolution, the "you're so scientifically illterate" card gets played. No wonder any scientist would be too afraid to criticize any aspect of evolution as if it is completely infallible. That alone is anti-science, if you ask me.
LOL! You are clearly not literate in science. You have no one to point the finger at but at yourself.
Scientists are not afraid to question anything. Never heard of a scientist that does not believe in Evolution either and I can assure you it's not becasue they are afraid to question it.
Amazing, isn't it that all the species that depend on sex for reproduction somehow evolved together or waited for the other to evolve in order to propagate their own kind let alone to evolve into something else.
I mean all of life is so symbiotic that none of them would survive had not the mate been right there all along. Does the evolution crowd think that for each species, it is natural for each to have evolved with such complexity, independent of each other and yet desperately in need of each other to succeed as a species.
It never ceases to amaze me how every single atheist I encounter online acts like they have PHD in science. Wow, what are the odds that everyone is an expert in the same discipline?
You still have offered zero proof that I came from a primate.
Well Jeff, compared to your understanding of science, .... never mind.
Look, we Atheists don't have a religious dogma that forbids knowledge. We don't have a children's bed time story book that we believe is undeniable fact.
Again ... fiction is something that is "created" by somebody - God cannot be created. God was always there. And that's what makes him God.
here ... three minutes and 38 seconds.
No god was not always there...Gods, thousands of them are works of fiction created many generations ago...Almost every culture has their own god and creation myth, each of them different....Ask yourself why you believe in your own particular god, and not, say the raven god of the Haida people....
Not all cultures had gods....Here is one that still doesn't...
LOL! You are clearly not literate in science. You have no one to point the finger at but at yourself.
Scientists are not afraid to question anything. Never heard of a scientist that does not believe in Evolution either and I can assure you it's not becasue they are afraid to question it.
LOL? Tell me, why should I even bother listening to the opinion of someone who mocks? All you are doing is flushing your credibility down the toliet with me. Great job.
And my point stands. There is such a stigma that any scientist who comes out questioning any aspect of evolution would possibly face career suicide. It's the same problem with doctors coming out saying that they witnessed a healing miracle. The skeptic community would put them under an uncomfortable microscope.
Well Jeff, compared to your understanding of science, .... never mind.
Look, we Atheists don't have a religious dogma that forbids knowledge. We don't have a children's bed time story book that we believe is undeniable fact.
Thankfully, I have a faith that thrives on knowledge. Knowledge is the driving force. I have the opportunity to get to know the creator of the universe! And He ever now and then shows me just how clueless and stupid man is. The answers to life are all right there in the Bible.
Referring to the Bible as a children's bed time story book only shows just how ignorant you are about Christianity. When it's all said and done, I will benefit 1000 times more by having knowledge of God vs not knowing some man made scientific terminology or something like DNA sequences.
Well Jeff, compared to your understanding of science, .... never mind.
Look, we Atheists don't have a religious dogma that forbids knowledge. We don't have a children's bed time story book that we believe is undeniable fact.
You can treat all human history as fairy tales though. Or your brain with broken logic may think that all human history must have been backed up by scientific facts.
LOL? Tell me, why should I even bother listening to the opinion of someone who mocks? All you are doing is flushing your credibility down the toliet with me. Great job.
And my point stands. There is such a stigma that any scientist who comes out questioning any aspect of evolution would possibly face career suicide. It's the same problem with doctors coming out saying that they witnessed a healing miracle. The skeptic community would put them under an uncomfortable microscope.
Thankfully, I have a faith that thrives on knowledge. Knowledge is the driving force. I have the opportunity to get to know the creator of the universe! And He ever now and then shows me just how clueless and stupid man is. The answers to life are all right there in the Bible.
Referring to the Bible as a children's bed time story book only shows just how ignorant you are about Christianity. When it's all said and done, I will benefit 1000 times more by having knowledge of God vs not knowing some man made scientific terminology or something like DNA sequences.
LOL? Tell me, why should I even bother listening to the opinion of someone who mocks? All you are doing is flushing your credibility down the toliet with me. Great job.
It is not mocking to observe that you don't understand what you're critiquing. And you don't. Apparently you think that you must never hear a discouraging word or it's nasty.
How nasty and unattractive would it be if I had never read the Bible or studied theology in any way and yet felt competent to remark upon it anyway?
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And my point stands. There is such a stigma that any scientist who comes out questioning any aspect of evolution would possibly face career suicide. It's the same problem with doctors coming out saying that they witnessed a healing miracle. The skeptic community would put them under an uncomfortable microscope.
Radical departures from current consensus ARE met with skepticism, as they should be. That is how science works. It is rather like the example you yourself (IIRC) gave in a post recently in this forum that if a measurement points to X 1000 times and then points to Y once. One instance of result Y does not invalidate a thousand result X's. Not unless result Y can be demonstrated to come from a more accurate method of measurement than X, or that points out a fatal flaw in X. Most likely Y is simply itself in error. And that is the default logical assumption until it is shown otherwise.
In addition, the higher the level at which established science is challenged, you better believe it will require higher levels of credibility to successfully pull it off. Not the mechanical engineers, graduate students and technologists that ID supporters hold forth as their martyrs, to be sure. It will take for example a respected paleontologist with an extensive track record in his field, to challenge the current science on the fossil record. But if there is actually anything TO challenge, that would not be an obstacle. Some paleontologist somewhere would take up the cause.
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