Evidence, anyone? (worship, punished, believe, Adam and Eve)
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You should be able to search a few medications that were proved with verified evidence to be beneficial in treating or curing some medical condition, and they were further verified by FDA before the mass production.
But as our knowledge grew, all the presented evidence by the pharmaceutical companies were thrown out of the window, large recalls were made, and huge law suits were filed by the victims.
I'm with you on that one. But that isn't science. That big pharma. My own son was a victim! But realistically, there was negligence or ignorance toward the end of the line.
No, I mean the GOD you perceive has no evidence of existence. That does not translate into "does not exist".
I'm a Pantheist. I perceive The Universe (ALL/EVERYTHING) as GOD. One of the most common perceptions of God in the history of mankind.
You believe there is "no evidence of existence" for The Universe (GOD)?
Problem is that the only church were you went failed to give you evidence of Jesus Holy spirit , which are the miracles of God .....So if you do not go and find a different church which can give you this evidence of Holy spirit , then you will continue to be deceived In your non development in the truth ,........... as if you just look for evidence on this forum you will be over whelmed by the atheism which plagues this place
So you don't even know what exactly faith is?
Believing in the existence of God is a faith (plz look in the dictionary to know the meaning). It's a FREE CHOICE that one makes WITHOUT having any need of an evidence.
There is no convincing required, there is no arguement needed. If you feel the need of God and his guidance in your life, you start looking for the signs of God. You use your intelligence to separate truth from lies.
And you feel what talks to you as the message of God, and you establish the faith in an effort to live a morally good life in the light of God's guidance.
If you do NOT feel the need of God in your life and you believe that the entire universe and everything in it came together by chance, then that's also a FREE CHOICE you made.
Your argument pretty much goes against you when I ask you to provide with with the "verifiable evidence" that you had a great, great grandfather.
To provide this evidence, you will need to find the grave of your biological grandfather, and the grave of his father and then the grave of his father - then you will need to perform a parental DNA testing to establish the lineage. Can you practically do that ?
No you can't!
Leave logic and reason out of it since we are looking for a "verifiable evidence". And since you don't have a verifiable evidence, you can't prove that you had a great grandfather.
You get on a plane to fly accross the pond. Do you have a verifiable evidence that gives you a 100% guarantee that you will reach the destination safely? No! But you do get on the plane.
You watch news every day - there is hardly an incident where you were actually at the ground and saw the incidents unfolding in front of you; however, you choose to believe in the news as to what's happening in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how ISIS is coming after you, for example.
You get sick and go to a doctor and he precribes you some medication. Do you ask for verifiable evidence from the doctor that it will 100% work for you before you start taking the medication? No, you pop up those pills in your mouth.
Notice, how frequently you make a free choice to use faith every day?
A co-workeronce asked me if I had faith that my pay was going to be deposited in my account by my employer on payday.
I said, NO, I DON"T have faith it is going to me deposited in my account by my employer. NO FAITH Whatsoever.
I went further, to tell him that what I had a reasonable expectation, based on past factual performance, that he would, once again, deposit my pay in my check.
Now you know what faith is, and more importantly, ISN"T.
Problem is that the only church were you went failed to give you evidence of Jesus Holy spirit , which are the miracles of God .....So if you do not go and find a different church which can give you this evidence of Holy spirit , then you will continue to be deceived In your non development in the truth ,........... as if you just look for evidence on this forum you will be over whelmed by the atheism which plagues this place
Do you have any idea, and no offense, how stupid it sounds to be talking about holy spirits in 2016? Really, now. Holy spirits!!!!!
By way of background, I was born Catholic, but in my 20's walked away from all forms of religion and became a non-believer. Why? I just couldn't swallow such fantastic flights of fantasy, and so many disconnects in logic and rationality without at least some substantive, verifiable evidence. I don't believe in Santa Claus, BTW, for the same reasons I don't believe in any god or creator etc., or a "life" after death, re-birth, reincarnation etc., of any type. There simply isn't, in my experience, any evidence whatsoever.
However, I am open to new information, and would ask if anyone has any direct evidence, please present it.
Two basic standards apply:
1. It has to be verifiably true
2. It has to have direct evidentiary value. IOW, it has to speak directly and substantively to the premise that there is, in fact, a god.
BTW, no dogma-as-evidence or anecdotal submissions - only real "stuff" that can be verified.
You're wasting your time here. Faith does not rest upon evidences that can be verified by science. It rests upon the word of God which is Jesus. If you place other things in authority above of the word of God, you will not believe. Suggest you move on. No one will be able to tell you anything that you are seeking here.
Our science is limited to investigating less than 5% of our entire reality. The remaining 95+% is comprised of unmeasurable dark energy and dark matter
Dark matter has measurable effects - that's how scientists discovered it. Please, try to keep science out of your woo.
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