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Old 12-02-2017, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Can you provide a confirmed list of those who have succeeded? Or are you simply assuming?
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It doesn't answer my question however. Which was to request a firm list of those who you know for a fact who are actually in heaven. Authentication of this list will necessarily be required.
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When you respond to a question/challenge in the post and then bait and switch, that is tantamount to lying in my book.

The poster ask you for a list of people who had made it to heaven. Either you have it, or you don't. If you don't, just admit it or be silent.
Ooops, sorry, my link was to speak to my point that "most will fail."

In answer to the question who has made it to Heaven, I do not have access to The Book of Life the Bible speaks of, which contains the list. Not part of God's divine plan to share that with me.
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Old 12-02-2017, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Ooops, sorry, my link was to speak to my point that "most will fail."

In answer to the question who has made it to Heaven, I do not have access to The Book of Life the Bible speaks of, which contains the list. Not part of God's divine plan to share that with me.
The poster asked: "Can you provide a confirmed list of those who have succeeded?"
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Old 12-02-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The poster asked: "Can you provide a confirmed list of those who have succeeded?"
Difficult to keep them on task sometimes, ain't it?
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Old 12-02-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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One argument I hear is that everyone votes their values and if atheists are allowed to promote secular values through politics then Christians has the right to promote their religious values through politics. The problem with this is that Christians don't seem to understand that a secular government discriminates against nobody. A Christian government on the other hand discriminates against non-Christians and Christians who don't subscribe to the correct brand of Christianity.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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I think its more of a type of christ we reject. list the traits, and we cross off the magic. that's really what i see going on. I mean we have extremist in atheism, like any other belief statement based groups.
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:29 PM
 
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I think its more of a type of christ we reject. list the traits, and we cross off the magic. that's really what i see going on. I mean we have extremist in atheism, like any other belief statement based groups.
Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods.
Extreme Atheist - One who really, really, really has no belief in any Gods.

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Old 12-02-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods.

Militant Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods, and neither should you.
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods.

Militant Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods, and neither should you.
I don't know that there's THAT militant an atheist among the regular posters here.



I think by far the majority would be happy to allow you to believe whatever balderdash gets you through the night -- as long as you don't try to force anyone else to dance to the same tune.
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods.

Militant Atheist - One who has no belief in any Gods, and neither should you.
Kinda like holding a mirror up to yourself (as in proselytizing Christians), isn't it?
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Old 12-02-2017, 08:06 PM
 
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There's a big difference between doing something in the name of Christianity or in the name of atheism (the former which is common, the latter which is rare) and a Christian doing something or an atheist doing something.
I don't see any difference in this or why the difference would matter if there was one.
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