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The silliest part of it all is atheists think it banged into being by accident with nobody creating it. Nothing happens that way. And I refuse to believe this world and my life is an accident.
You have zero proof for this position. No one knows what the composition of existence was and why it expanded. We can hypothesize its composition by the elements we can examine. It is far more "silly" to suggest a supernatural eternal being over what we can observe through scientific examination and natural occurrence.
We do not observe humans being created from dust. We do not observe individuals creating wine from just water. We do not observe the splitting of seas. We do not observe humans walking on water. We do not observe humans being raised from the dead. We do not observe talking donkeys, or five thousand being fed from 4 fish and 2 loaves. These are things that just don't happen.
Try again. Saying atheism is a religion is like saying off is a TV channel. And if you want to be an atheist, be one. No one's forcing you to believe in the eternal surveillance camera. As for atheists being scammers, you have that all wrong. Churches are the ones who don't pay taxes, not atheists.
When a TV is "OFF"...is makes no sound, puts out no picture or info.
Hardly descriptive of what is put out by those that have over TEN THOUSAND (or several times that) entries to a interweb forum preaching their Atheist Religion.
Atheism is only like "BALD" relative to hair color, or "OFF" relative to watching and listening to a television, when it puts forth nothing at all.
If your statement was truthful...you, nor any other Atheists, would be on this board proselytizing Atheism.
You are as "devoted" to your Religion as it gets. And that Religion is Atheism.
It is YOU that needs to "try again".
For all the atheists who lurk here, what do you say?
I'll make a deal with you. You get every single christian on the planet to stop beating me over the head with their bibles and forcing me to live my life in accordance with your religious laws, and I promise not to pay any more attention to christianity than I do any other primitive superstition. But as long as christians insist on getting in my face and interfering with the way I choose to live my life, I'm gonna be up in y'all's faces, too. Deal?
The silliest part of it all is atheists think it banged into being by accident with nobody creating it. Nothing happens that way. And I refuse to believe this world and my life is an accident.
That's a misrepresentation of the current science. A lot of things happen every day (tides and other diurnal forces for example, or more generally the orbital interaction of heavenly bodies) that don't have an intelligent agent behind them, but we don't disparage them as "accidental".
Where the science seems to be gradually settling these days is around the notion that the universe itself is eternal and uncreated. This is not fully settled / proven science at this time, it is a hypothesis that is falsifiable / testable / examinable through math and physics. Until that is fully sorted out the basic question is whether you are going to run with unsubstantiatable assertions or just admit you don't know for sure.
As to what is more likely to be true we have a testable hypothesis (or, really, several testable hypotheses) over against bald assertions. I know which I think is more likely to be true.
When a TV is "OFF"...is makes no sound, puts out no picture or info.
Hardly descriptive of what is put out by those that have over TEN THOUSAND (or several times that) entries to a interweb forum preaching their Atheist Religion.
Atheism is only like "BALD" relative to hair color, or "OFF" relative to watching and listening to a television, when it puts forth nothing at all.
If your statement was truthful...you, nor any other Atheists, would be on this board proselytizing Atheism.
You are as "devoted" to your Religion as it gets. And that Religion is Atheism.
It is YOU that needs to "try again".
No. You do. An analogy does not have to be an exact replica (unless it is being as proof of something being true). The point is that an unresponsive TV showing no particular programme is not broadcasting a channel. We putting out not religious sound, no religious picture and no religious info. We are putting out rational sound, logical pictures and evidence -based info. and so the analogy can't be pushed to hard, but the fact is that atheism isn't a religion in the way that Off isn't selection of a channel, Bald is not a hair -colour and not collecting stamps, matchbox labels or hub caps is not a kind of hobby. It is a lack of one.
True the analogy can't be pushed until it breaks down, but that isn't the point, and you are smart enough to know it, but (as usual) are delighted to wind us up using any pettifogging lawyer tricks you can think up.
Why, you are even overlooking the killer response that, even if atheism was a religion (be some reasonable definition) it would still be the one with the best case. And you can save your illogical argument that negative evidence is not valid evidence.
Back to the drawing board you go. This time, stay there until you have learned how to draw.
Last edited by mensaguy; 12-03-2017 at 05:37 PM..
Reason: Corrected spelling of "bald." Left British spelling of Programme and Colour. ;)
I have like 14 or 16 PMs as evidence, that you were very much faithful to your worldview. That is, it is faith. Faith is the worldview that one is faithful to.
Bald is not a hair color. Off is not a TV setting. But atheism is a faith.
I have like 14 or 16 PMs as evidence, that you were very much faithful to your worldview. That is, it is faith. Faith is the worldview that one is faithful to.
Bald is not a hair color. Off is not a TV setting. But atheism is a faith.
I have like 14 or 16 PMs as evidence, that you were very much faithful to your worldview. That is, it is faith. Faith is the worldview that one is faithful to.
Bald is not a hair color. Off is not a TV setting. But atheism is a faith.
Faith in what?
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