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Originally Posted by Campbell34The thing is that the Christian missionaries believed that they were acting according to the Biblical moral code, but the fact is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The church became blinded by their goal and there have been reports that they used brute violence in order to convert the primitive heathens into Christianity. This goes directly against the teachings of Jesus.
This is nonsense!! All the good work that has been done - especially during times of extreme crisis has come out of America and Britian. People like to critisise America - but they have sent more financial aid to poor countries and more Missionaries - who take with them Practical help as well as the gospel - than anywhere else.
Originally Posted by Campbell34The thing is that the Christian missionaries believed that they were acting according to the Biblical moral code, but the fact is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The church became blinded by their goal and there have been reports that they used brute violence in order to convert the primitive heathens into Christianity. This goes directly against the teachings of Jesus.
Anyone can abuse the Bible, and God knows their names. Yet true faith can only work if God be in it. I believe that a great number who attend church every Sunday are not even Christian.
Right, are you saying that Native Americans were never ever forced to be Christian and that it always had been US policy that the Native Americans could get an education in their native language? That what happened in Canada did not happen in the US?
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I believe that a great number who attend church every Sunday are not even Christian.
This is nonsense!! All the good work that has been done - especially during times of extreme crisis has come out of America and Britian. People like to critisise America - but they have sent more financial aid to poor countries and more Missionaries - who take with them Practical help as well as the gospel - than anywhere else.
Well thanks to Christian missionaries more than half of the native people here an the west coast were wiped out by another thing they introduced...Smallpox. Then the children were ripped from their families and placed in Christian schools, where they were forbidden to speak their native language, were sexually, physically and emotionally abused. They are still suffering from the effects of this abuse today...
To illustrate how flawed and illogical the bible is, make a time line (or try to, not even the best biblical scholars can) using the four gospels, that tracks where Jesus and his followers were, when. Impossible to do. The four books contract each other. And in fact were written by religious propagandists in the 2nd century by anonymous authors who never knew Christ. This is a cult--there is no non-bibical proof of Jesus, and no original idea in the entire bible that didn't exist before in more ancient beliefs. As for Jesus, he is barely mentioned in the bible except in these four books, and the scant paragraphs by Josephus or whatever, written about the supposedly greatest man ever lived, have been proven forgeries. No historians wrote about this very famous person. Nothing that hasn't been proven forgeries anyway. And what about the dead coming out and walking around and visiting their relatives at the time of Christ's death? Hmmm, you would have thunk someone would have written about it. But no. Nadda. Zip.
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This goes directly against the teachings of Jesus.
That what happened in Canada did not happen in the US?
I agree.
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