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It's an emotion, just like anger sadness, happiness etc. Yes, it evolved. I'm sure the first macrobiotic life didn't experience 'love' but as species evolved to become more sophisticated and developed, they felt empathy towards each other within the species.
Yes. We humans, along with many other species, are highly social animals that live in 'groups' and we have learned that the best way to do this is not to kill each other. We don't kill or abuse others because we don't want to be killed or abused ourselves.
If we think something is detrimental to society and some people regularly do that thing then yes, we make a law against it to protect those that don't do it.
...but that would be because we know that spaceships don't occur naturally. If there was verifiable evidence that spaceships occurred naturally then we wouldn't be looking for a 'purpose' or a 'designer'.
That's assuming that we were 'created' by a 'designer' and for that there is not the slightest scrap of verifiable evidence. It's only when you assume a 'creation' that you require a 'creator'.
Rafius.....animals don't make laws because they don't have intellectual ability. Only humans.
The intellectual ability comes from only one source that is not of this world.
Common sense reasoning is...... our intellectual abilities enabling us to make laws governing ourselves.
In the biblical story of Adam and Eve....who was cast out of the garden and why? And because of them...the animals as well.
The animals were made for mankind therefore, are included in the curse.
Rafius.....animals don't make laws because they don't have intellectual ability. Only humans.
The intellectual ability comes from only one source that is not of this world.
Common sense reasoning is...... our intellectual abilities enabling us to make laws governing ourselves.
In the biblical story of Adam and Eve....who was cast out of the garden and why? And because of them...the animals as well.
The animals were made for mankind therefore, are included in the curse.
The whole post reeks with wrongness but I'll just address the bold: Many animals do indeed have "laws" that govern behaviour within their societies. And they are enforced, or "policed" by pack leaders and their lieutenants.
Where do you think we learned it?
To think we are removed from our animal kin is one of religions most egregious errors.
As a Gentile, meaning a non-Jew, I have not been chosen or given a law or specific location on planet earth to call my own. In that respect, I represent what the rest of humanity is in the world.
The only thing the Gentiles have in common with the Jews is a conscience towards a known God (Jewish God) to the Jews and an unknown god (Trees, Sun, Moon, god of the harvest…. the list goes on) to the Gentiles.
The Jews needed a sign to believe where as the Gentiles need none. Why such a disparity? I mean ……aren’t we all human beings with intelligence? Made of the same lump of clay…. earth?
Unless, as the saying goes… “To whom much is given, much is required”, is a key to the answer to the disparity.
So, for a Gentile who has no known god has no science proving there is a God. So, what if, a Gentile decides to look into the Jewish Gods claim of authenticity?
How can a Gentile accept such a claim that science can not otherwise prove the existence of a god?
Does a Gentile need a sign? NO! But, by the mere facts of things already existing in this world, by the intelligent design of not only the things on earth but also the organized, methodical, operation of the cosmos. I.e. The undying Sun by day, the guiding light , Moon, by night, the stars for navigation… the list goes on.
Surely… there must be a God. (Note: special emphasis on upper case letters to lower case letters in this post)
Since Science can not prove there is a God, we must conclude than (by common reasoning) that there must be something to the Jewish God that may hold the answer to our querying.
After all, we have a story of human beginnings, human behavioral limits all because there was A GOD that created it all. Now, that makes sense to me, a Gentile, so I’m interested.
I learn somethings that if I decide to believe in the Jewish God I have to accept it by faith and not by sign.
I also find that I, a Gentile without a known god, can know of a known God simply and only by faith alone. That to me would be a gift, free from any ties that Binds my curiosity to the unknown gods, that would otherwise, hold me in prison of an unanswerable QUERY.
So again, if I choose, by faith alone, to believe in the Jewish Messiah claims of my being accepted into the Jewish Gods Kingdom in the afterlife…. that would be a first.
So, the saying now make sense, even though it may have a wide range of applications, but in my case it is that “The first shall be last and the last shall be first”.
Makes sense that can easily be accepted. I , not being chosen (like the Jews) am first to believe in the Jewish Gods Messiah for their God promising me, not only an explanation of my beginnings, the reasons for my fallen state, but more like…. Tank you Jesus for rescuing me. (Hope restored)
Second place goes to the chosen for yet, to this day, need a sign in order to exercise faith in their Messiah as their true God.
Again, common sense tells me that their plight is my salvation therefore, they too will, by their own destiny become like as I am, saved by faith alone and not by all the required practices.
I believe, that for simplicity, that God, worked it all out for all our benefits, but each in its due time.
What does all this do to all the worlds religions and to those who refuse to believe in God?
Very simple……. Love! If, you love your neighbor you will love God. If you love God you will love your neighbor regardless of any stated religious (Religions) or none religious beliefs.
There would be no wars if, love was exercised, no killings, murders, stealing’s, hatred, greediness but purely giving of oneself, sharing ones possessions because it would be a God kind of love.
So, there neighbor, what have you to say bout that?
Blessings, AJ
The concept "God is love" was held by Christians long before Muslims and jews.
As for chosen ones, anything speaking of separation is not from God.
God has no step children.
Yes. Rather than make a sound argument, theis apologists prefer to express their personal dislike for the atheist arguments (and atheists themselves) and appeal to popularity of religion as support.
"I don't like the sound of that and most people agree with me."
None of that has anything to do with who has the best case.
As for chosen ones, anything speaking of separation is not from God.
God has no step children...... jonesg.
The word "Chosen" is another word for instruments.
They "Chosen" we're used as instruments in helping Jesus accomplish His mission.
His own received Him not....was thier lot.
IMOP.
In Summary....my belief is that common sense is a direct result of having a conscience of which has nothing to do with collective learnings without a conscience.
Animals in groups have rank andathority by dna instructions and not because they chose to Lord over others of their kind. Instinctive traits instilled at birth.
The whole post reeks with wrongness but I'll just address the bold: Many animals do indeed have "laws" that govern behaviour within their societies. And they are enforced, or "policed" by pack leaders and their lieutenants.
Where do you think we learned it?
To think we are removed from our animal kin is one of religions most egregious errors.
Common sense question for you? "Wrongness"....is that an animal conclusion or a human conclusion?
Animals know no wrong...for there is no wrong in a lion killing a faun for food.
But, somehow humans may see wrong in killing another human and can find good in saving a human life.
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