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And "my" thesis that conscious is not created by the brain is false according to YOU and other atheist/materialists, but it is true according to anyone else.
By anyone else you mean people with no evidence who need to make things up. If you actually studied the science, you will find many religious people also accept consciousness as a product of the brain.
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You have no evidence for your devout atheism, so at least qualify your statements as opinions, not established facts. They are only established facts if you get all your information from atheist/materialist sources. Which I am sure you do.
By devout you mean you have yet to present any evidence for your case. And I have evidence for my atheism. And you will find Bayes was a Christian. So is the Bible. Once again with the dishonest implication that our only source is biased atheist sources. Christian argument 894, chapter fallacies, section projection.
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You don't understand why it's important to get our knowledge from various types of sources. You don't know there is any other way of looking at things.
If I think about a cat, a certain area of my brain is activated. So there is your link. You assume something happened in that area of the brain to cause me to think about a cat.
Because that is part of the evidence you claim we do not have.
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It never occurs to you that my thinking about a cat is what caused that brain area to become active.
Because you have no evidence for this, you just presume this is the case.
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Brain scientists, if they are at all in touch with reality, have to admit that they do not know how the brain and consciousness are related.
But we know we can affect consciousness (among other things) by doing different things with the brain.
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And, as always, you ask for my evidence. You are the one claiming that something is known and understood, and I am the one saying it is not understood. So why ask for my evidence?
Because your assertions and inventions are not evidence.
Au contraire. We have no evidence of consciousness without brains. You keep claiming that they exist in this manner, and you keep not providing any evidence at all.
We can model aspects of consciousness with AI systems. But that does not help good4nuthin, as that just shows a material origin.
There you go,'goodforNothing'. The radio-transceiver theory. Or excuse - why universal consciousness doesn't show universal consciousness all the time. How does that that appeal to you?
Of course this 'theory' does not tell us why we need to learn instead of just receiving knowledge from this cosmic entity. Or why we had to invent science, mathematics, logic and language in the first place.
We can model aspects of consciousness with AI systems. But that does not help good4nuthin, as that just shows a material origin.
Oh you can? Aspects of consciousness? Well maybe you should tell the world, because the world has not heard about this.
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