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Old 10-23-2018, 01:44 PM
 
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Our brain is a microcosm of the universe. It is one cell of the universal brain that establishes our reality.
Well ok. But there is infinitely more involved than physical, "material," substances.

 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:45 PM
 
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This is only partially true because of the limitations of our measurements and the fact that 95+% of our universe is beyond our scientific measurements (non-baryonic dark matter and dark energy). But through reason and philosophical elucidation, we can deduce that the consciousness produced BY the brain can NOT reside within the brain matter. It is NOT the individual neuronal "firings." It is a "consolidated neural resonance field of neuronal firings," which is NOT matter. It is like EM field (but NOT a measurable EM field) that we experience as our Self that is perceiving, measuring, interpreting, and deciding. So where it resides (locus) is in the greater universe where typical EM or EM-like manifestations reside.
Also called "spirit."
 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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You are correct, but you err, IMO by not recognizing the brain operates as a transceiver - both producing and receiving from the universe. The brain establishes the EM-like resonant neural field that enables our true Self to communicate with the physical world in a "delayed broadcast" fashion.
Ok.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:48 PM
 
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There you go,'goodforNothing'. The radio-transceiver theory. Or excuse - why universal consciousness doesn't show universal consciousness all the time. How does that that appeal to you?
I think the brain includes computers, but it also includes transceivers and receivers. And who knows what else.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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. And I have evidence for my atheism.
No you don't.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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But we know we can affect consciousness (among other things) by doing different things with the brain.

Well of course. Doing something to the brain will affect consciousness. And doing something to the body will affect consciousness. That doesn't mean the brain, or the body, creates consciousness.

You have NO evidence that the brain creates consciousness.

The brain is mostly not understood (yes, some areas have been mapped, but there is no real understanding). If neuroscientists understood how the brain works, it would be possible to make artificial brains. It is not. Not even close. Not even far.

Any neuroscientist who is honest and in touch with reality will admit this.

Decades ago, neuroscience and artificial intelligence researchers did not see the brain as unfathomably complex, did not think creating a conscious intelligent machine would be far off or impossible. Now they know better.

It is an old myth that science has demonstrated that the brain creates consciousness. Everyone who keeps up with the research knows it is not true.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 01:59 PM
 
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Then you understand the difference between imply and infer.



This has been studied for at least 20 years now.

And it is strange how I earn good money from doing exactly this (although on a small scale).

But as you have just admitted you are ignorant about what you speak, we can now just dismiss your assertions from now on.
You are lying, and that's why you don't even mention one example.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Well ok. But there is infinitely more involved than physical, "material," substances.
Duh. About 95+% more.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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No you don't.
Atheism is the lack of belief in any Gods. I don't believe in any Gods. That's my proof for atheism. Whether I am correct or not is a different matter. Saying you believe in a God proves that theism exists but not if it is true or false.
 
Old 10-23-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Well ok. But there is infinitely more involved than physical, "material," substances.
I ask again. What is involved in addition to the material? You keep saying this, but you have never described it.

What is it? How do you know? How does it interact with the material? Where does it come from?

Do you have answers to any of this?
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