If religion made sense (Abraham, bible, quote, faith)
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OK so tell us in your own words how things are created. whether it is building a house, or baking a batch of chocolate chip cookies, or writing a computer program, or composing a song. what is the process of creating. something. anything.
you do know we say "nobody knows" right? sure, "something" may have started it. it may even have been born.
but an omni god going "poof"? there is no reason to guy into that.
you do know we say "nobody knows" right? sure, "something" may have started it. it may even have been born.
but an omni god going "poof"? there is no reason to guy into that.
Of course people know a lot about the process of creating. They know how to create a house, create chocolate chip cookies, create a song, create a computer program.
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 01-11-2019 at 04:53 PM..
OK so tell us in your own words how things are created. whether it is building a house, or baking a batch of chocolate chip cookies, or writing a computer program, or composing a song. what is the process of creating. something. anything.
I created a casserole this afternoon for a potluck dinner tonight. Oh, excuse me. God created the casserole. I just had to pay for the food and do the work.
Of course people know a lot about the process of creating. They know how to create a house, create chocolate chip cookies, create a song, create a computer program.
see tzap, this is dishonest. You need this kind stuff to trap people. i give them the information to understand the world around them. I give the confidence to use common sense and reason. I give them the strength to walk their own path.
I created a casserole this afternoon for a potluck dinner tonight. Oh, excuse me. God created the casserole. I just had to pay for the food and do the work.
You created the casserole. In your own words explain the process. Where did you get the idea? Why did you make it? What purpose does it serve? Did it just happen? Would you say "casseroles happen" "casseroles just happen" "they just are". How did you know how to make the casserole? Is a casserole happening "just random". Did the casserole make itself?
see tzap, this is dishonest. You need this kind stuff to trap people. i give them the information to understand the world around them. I give the confidence to use common sense and reason. I give them the strength to walk their own path.
You use this type of stuff. I am not a fan.
Common sense is a great tool for understanding the creative process. So is reason. And to understand "the world around us" as you call it, examples people are familiar with illustrate the process best. (Any process)
You created the casserole. In your own words explain the process. Where did you get the idea? Why did you make it? What purpose does it serve? Did it just happen? Would you say "casseroles happen" "casseroles just happen" "they just are". How did you know how to make the casserole? Is a casserole happening "just random". Did the casserole make itself?
No, the casserole didn't make itself. I guess that makes me god. I mean God.
No, the casserole didn't make itself. I guess that makes me god. I mean God.
Humans create on a smaller scale (casseroles, computer programs, automobiles). Creator creates on a larger scale (planets, nature, universes)
The process is the same though. Sentient being using intelligence and the creative process to create physical stuff.
Back of everything physical is the non physical intelligence that created it from desire and idea, through planning and design, through building and assembling, to finished casserole or planet or novel or galaxy.
The you that inhabits your body and looks out through your eyeballs has the same capacity to create as big C Creator. The difference is a matter of degree, and a conscious deliberate focused use of the creative process (rather than haphazard or scattered). But the process is the same.
Last edited by Tzaphkiel; 01-11-2019 at 05:32 PM..
Common sense is a great tool for understanding the creative process. So is reason. And to understand "the world around us" as you call it, examples people are familiar with illustrate the process best. (Any process)
we have a fundamental difference in how we teach tzap. I don't care of there is or is not a god.
I don't have to play games to lead people away or towards anything.
No, the casserole didn't make itself. I guess that makes me god. I mean God.
For Tzaph, it's G_d. Or G-d.
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