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Old 11-15-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Yet that almost 7 billion can not agree on which religion makes sense. Otherwise there would only be one religion.
Yet, most believe in some sort of higher being/creator. What causes humans to reach to the heavens?
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Not only does your assertion lack evidence, if true, it would make your god most improbable.
Explain, please.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I came into existence a few hours after my parents had sex. The parts that I am made of came into existence with the universe.
And the universe just...happened?
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Yet, most believe in some sort of higher being/creator.
We evolved to see purpose, whether it exists or not. So it is only natural to believe some higher intelligence exists, whether it does or not.

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What causes humans to reach to the heavens?
We evolved to be curious, and to solve problems.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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Explain, please.
It means that if your god is greater, then it must be more complex. And complex things do not exist for no reason. And the more complex, the more improbable it becomes that it just existed. An all knowing god? That would be even more improbable. Add an intelligence that just knew what 6 parameters to set for a stable universe, and it becomes even more improbable.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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And the universe just...happened?
Yes. Complex systems happening without intelligence appears to be normal. Intelligent beings just existing do not.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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And the universe just...happened?
And god just...... happened?
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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Can't read your comment, but a reasonable response would probably be that you still wouldn't believe. You've made up your mind, and don't really care about what makes sense.
its more like we wont listen to people that tell us "don't use common sense or reason."

some of us even understand that a statement of belief will be expressed by a personality type. Sick people hold sick beliefs. A sick person will claim and will push forth a warped statement of belief about a god.

either for, or against, is irrelevant to me, sick is sick. The personality type should be the focus.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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We evolved to see purpose, whether it exists or not. So it is only natural to believe some higher intelligence exists, whether it does or not.



We evolved to be curious, and to solve problems.
Or maybe that yearning was put there by our creator.
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Old 11-15-2018, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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It means that if your god is greater, then it must be more complex. And complex things do not exist for no reason. And the more complex, the more improbable it becomes that it just existed. An all knowing god? That would be even more improbable. Add an intelligence that just knew what 6 parameters to set for a stable universe, and it becomes even more improbable.
You’ve given me no reason NOT to believe in a creator.
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