If religion made sense (heaven, about, against, purpose)
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At what point in time did you come into existence? The father carries the spermatozoa. Spermatozoa carry spermatozoa.
If you are waiting for me to say who is the creator of spermatozoa, I don't know. What I want to know is where does religion, that contains no spermatozoa in the literal sense, fit into all of this? It never created any living thing.
If you are waiting for me to say who is the creator of spermatozoa, I don't know. What I want to know is where does religion, that contains no spermatozoa in the literal sense, fit into all of this? It never created any living thing.
In order to believe God has always existed, you must believe you've always existed.
Everyone would have been born a believer with no choice, and no ability to reason?
God had no problem with creating angels that are 100% believers, with the ability to reason, they can make choices, they have FREE WILL and are IMMORTAL.
god did that BEFORE inventing infallible, mortal humans, right GoCard?
If you are waiting for me to say who is the creator of spermatozoa, I don't know. What I want to know is where does religion, that contains no spermatozoa in the literal sense, fit into all of this? It never created any living thing.
I think we al know what the argument is - where we, a chicken or an came from is only a Rhetorical Q leading all the way back to 'who started life?' which is intended to be the atheist -stumper. When we explain the postulated explanation "You can't prove it". Tow which we say "You can't disprove it".
"Yes we can it could not happen by chance."
"Not by chance, but by known natural actions."
then the denial. That's your opinion.."Where you there?"
We have done the argument so often. And you are right. Even if it was a god that dunnit...which one?
cue the Other argument.
"There is only one god."
"Which one?"
"They all worship the same god."
"Again - which one?"
I have never been able to get a straight answer, so I'll give it (I'd have mane a damn' fine Theist)
"The True God is best expressed in the Bible, which is the only religion with a book that sets out the whole thing from first to last with verifiable history".
Which eventually brings us to the only part that matters - whether the Gospels are credible. That (to me at least) is the only question that matters and all the rest are really pointless arguments that serve only as atheist -stumpers. if they don't work, they try the next one. Infinite regression back to "Who made everything, then?" is (with abiogenesis -and 'consciousness') the ones they are sure they can dig in and not be shifted. But none of them are relevant to religion, which is really what the debate is about - as you pointed out.
And now I need a pipe up and some uv der hard stuff and rest me elbow.
I often wonder about Jesus's audience during his time. Did they just not think outside of the box, hold on to superstitions, or keep negative thoughts about themselves? They needed somebody to show them differently?
Well, from what we know, it appears to have been a very restrictive society with a close set of rules to be followed without question and everyone meant to stay within their assigned role within that culture. I view him as a guy who taught that following the rules wasn't always the best way when it meant that the rules trumped compassion for other human beings.
Well, I would have to do some rereading in that period but I would like to stick with your original point, which is that the creator is greater than the created.
In the case of the amniotic egg, this allowed living creatures to move from a wet habitat to a dry habitat, thus giving the advantage to the genes of the incubator, and not to the actual incubator. So I think when we talk about what is greater, the discussion should focus on the genes that successfully passed on from incubator to egg and lead us here today.
It's kind of like asking which is greater: parent or child? The parent is older, but does that mean greater? The vast majority of parents will say the child is greater.
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