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Old 12-09-2018, 05:31 PM
 
Location: US
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Christianity is the only belief with a LIVING deity........all other fake deities are long dead......so now you get to choose from 30,000 different denominations. It's very troubling when you find out the only "true" religion isn't a religion at all and has no denomination. The real deal is known as the "body of Christ" and you get in by simple faith in the gospel of grace. It only took me 25 years to find this out. If you are trying to earn your way to heaven you will fail. We can only believe in what Christ already did on that cross, shed His blood and paid for our sins...........

May your search for the truth be a profitable one........seek Him and HE will find you!
G-d says that no one may die for anotherā€™s sins...
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Old 12-09-2018, 05:48 PM
 
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G-d says that no one may die for anotherā€™s sins...
Right. No man may die for another's sins. That's why Jesus had to be God.
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Old 12-09-2018, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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The "true religion" is the religion you yourself believe in. Even atheism is a religion.
No. The absence of belief in a god is not a religion.
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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There are 3 possible positions regarding morality:

1) Theist position: There exists a magical being called "god" that is the source of all morality and law.
2) Atheist position: There is no "god" therefore there is no morality or law and one is free to do anything one wants.
3) Morality and law are emergent properties that emerge whenever you have large numbers of people interacting with one another.

Both atheists and theists believe that god is the only possible source of morality. The only difference is whether they believe such a being exists or not

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Old 12-09-2018, 08:39 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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There are 3 possible positions regarding morality:

1) Theist position: There exists a magical being called "god" that is the source of all morality and law.
2) Atheist position: There is no "god" therefore there is no morality or law and one is free to do anything one wants.
3) Morality and law are emergent properties that emerge whenever you have large numbers of people interacting with one another.

Both atheists and theists believe that god is the source of morality. The only difference is whether they believe such a being exists or not
How many times Granpa?
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:00 PM
 
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Noahidism is probably the closest thing to a true religion on Earth at this time but even that is mostly just BS.
All religions are mostly BS.

So what do we do?
Do we reject all religion and become atheist.
No. Atheism is mostly BS too.

There simply is no winning move here.
Let me rephrase that: Noahidism is probably the closest thing to arational religion on Earth at this time but even that is mostly just BS.

Frankly a perfectly rational religion wouldnt even be a religion in my opinion

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Old 12-09-2018, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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There are 3 possible positions regarding morality:

1) Theist position: There exists a magical being called "god" that is the source of all morality and law.
2) Atheist position: There is no "god" therefore there is no morality or law and one is free to do anything one wants.
3) Morality and law are emergent properties that emerge whenever you have large numbers of people interacting with one another.

Both atheists and theists believe that god is the only possible source of morality. The only difference is whether they believe such a being exists or not
Are you saying that raping young virgin girls, murdering the whole population bar eight, slaughtering innocent women and children (but sparing the virgin girls to be raped later) is moral? Oh yes, let's not forget the Egyptian firstborns.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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Trying to reason with you people is an exercise in futility
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Trying to reason with you people is an exercise in futility
And it's always the other person's fault.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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The one you believe in.
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