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Old 03-04-2021, 01:31 PM
 
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TroutDude again.
Same for Mystic and Transponder

SO in my experience, people who hear audible voices or see things that no one else sees are mentally ill.
And with the right treatment, this can be resolved.

I find it interesting when someone says "God Spoke to Me today" Usually what follows is a justification of sorts to support whatever the person plans to say or do next, even if it is unhealthy or immoral. As for contacting dead people, there has been so many examples of psychics and fortune tellers, channelers and new age mediums who have been shown over and over to be hoaxers and con artists. People do not talk to the dead. Period. They may say they do, and they may think they do, but they don't.

As far as dreaming about dead people, yes people do, but that is not the same as having a real conversation or actual contact with them. Subconscious replaying of past experiences, thoughts, ideas IS NOT contact with the dead. Period.
You are in for such a surprise, KingCat. As I said, Reality is not as cut and dried as you perceive it to be.

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Old 03-04-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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SO in my experience, people who hear audible voices or see things that no one else sees are mentally ill.
And with the right treatment, this can be resolved.
I find it interesting when someone says "God Spoke to Me today" Usually what follows is a justification of sorts to support whatever the person plans to say or do next, even if it is unhealthy or immoral. As for contacting dead people, there has been so many examples of psychics and fortune tellers, channelers and new age mediums who have been shown over and over to be hoaxers and con artists. People do not talk to the dead. Period. They may say they do, and they may think they do, but they don't.

As far as dreaming about dead people, yes people do, but that is not the same as having a real conversation or actual contact with them. Subconscious replaying of past experiences, thoughts, ideas IS NOT contact with the dead. Period.
bold above = writers, artists, inventors, sculptors, musicians, composers, and all creativity.
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Old 03-04-2021, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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bold above = writers, artists, inventors, sculptors, musicians, composers, and all creativity.
I'm a writer, artist and musician.

I do not hear audible voices or see things other people don't see.

I know many writers, artists, musicians et al. Not a single one has ever mentioned hearing audible voices or seeing things others do not.

You poor thing.
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Old 03-04-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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I'm a writer, artist and musician.

I do not hear audible voices or see things other people don't see.

I know many writers, artists, musicians et al. Not a single one has ever mentioned hearing audible voices or seeing things others do not.

You poor thing.
I am not a good writer but my first degree was in fine arts and I dabble in music at time

No I too do not hear voices, nor do I know of any artists who claim to But I do know a plethora of imaginative people, who look at life "outside of the box" who think of unique ways to express things.

My brain imagines all sorts of things, and I have more IDEAS than I can put to canvas I also find inspiration everywhere.....but I do not hear voices or have visions of something which is not there

I live with ideas, and imaginations, but I also understand the difference between reality and fantasy,, fact and fiction, regardless of what Mystic lovingly says Now after I read some of the Kabbalah texts and lessons, I my change that,


BTW I love everything about Mystic even when I disagree with him. Think about that, theists.
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Old 03-04-2021, 04:47 PM
 
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bold above = writers, artists, inventors, sculptors, musicians, composers, and all creativity.
I am an artist (photographer ) and my wife a fine art artist (printmaker, drawing , painting etc.) But neither of us cheap voices or see things. And we supposedly live in a haunted house.
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Old 03-04-2021, 04:56 PM
 
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I am not a good writer but my first degree was in fine arts and I dabble in music at time

No I too do not hear voices, nor do I know of any artists who claim to But I do know a plethora of imaginative people, who look at life "outside of the box" who think of unique ways to express things.

My brain imagines all sorts of things, and I have more IDEAS than I can put to canvas I also find inspiration everywhere.....but I do not hear voices or have visions of something which is not there

I live with ideas, and imaginations, but I also understand the difference between reality and fantasy,, fact and fiction, regardless of what Mystic lovingly says Now after I read some of the Kabbalah texts and lessons, I my change that,

BTW I love everything about Mystic even when I disagree with him. Think about that, theists.
I am humbled by such a ringing acclamation, KingCat, and you know how much of an accomplishment actually humbling me is. We are simpatico, my brother. I love you too!
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Old 03-04-2021, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I feel a group hug coming on.

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Old 03-04-2021, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Germany
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bold above = writers, artists, inventors, sculptors, musicians, composers, and all creativity.
You missed out the mentally ill, while adding people who do not hear audible voices or see things that no one else sees.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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I feel a group hug coming on.

Everybody don your FullBodyCondoms!©


Love you man
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Old 03-05-2021, 06:11 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I'm a writer, artist and musician.

I do not hear audible voices or see things other people don't see.

I know many writers, artists, musicians et al. Not a single one has ever mentioned hearing audible voices or seeing things others do not.

You poor thing.
Tzaph has always had a problem distinguishing between ideas and Revelations. I believe she lumps them all together under "Intuition".
It reminds me of the excellent atheist Bible -expert, Prof. Stavrakopulou in a discussion panel where a scientist said that science was the best for telling us what was what, or words to that effect and she screamed her head off. It never got explained that science tells us how stuff works unrelated to human preferences, but her view (or what I rook it to be) was that the arts. including the Bible as inspirational literature (I prefer LoR, myself), which wouldn't exist at all without humans (1), have as much part as science in telling how this work within us.

Taph. has trouble with this concept as well, but maybe it has now sunk in.

(1) the implied caveat 'so far as we know and as the evidence indicates' (as in when we say 'God doesn't exist) shouldn't need to be added, but with theist apologetic attempts to wrongfoot atheist apologetics, I'd better say it.
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