Jesus Christ of the Gospels Never Existed. He's a Myth and I Can Prove It (Part 1). (agnostics, pray)
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You're missing my point which is that rather than intentionally 'creating' a mythical character based on earlier mythical characters, the apostles actually believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be. And that makes thrillobyte's argument invalid.
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And that makes thrillobyte's argument invalid.
This is the kind of comment that is born of desperation and helplessness, Mike. You state an opinion ["the apostles actually believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be"] as a fact. But you can't present a single historical reference to support your claim. Instead you present other opinions of biased Christian scholars as your "evidence". And I have shown that two of the most prominent historians of that area and period--Justus of Tiberias, who was a native of Galilee and Philo of Alexandria--never wrote a single word about Jesus or the apostles. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. As is
Historical and archaeological evidence of Jesus does NOT exist. Historical and archaeological evidence of the apostles does NOT exist.
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Jesus Christ's life as presented in the gospels most closely identifies with those of Oedipus, Perseus, Krishna, Romulus, Attis, Horus, Hercules and Moses.
Don't believe me? Here are the 22 common characteristics that identify with the gods above. Check how many you can readily identify with Jesus:
Marries a princess (often daughter of predecessor)
Becomes king
For a time he reigns uneventfully
He prescribes laws
Later loses favor with gods or his subjects
Driven from throne and city
Meets with mysterious death
Often at the top of a hill
His children, if any, do not succeed him
His body is not buried
Has one or more holy sepulchers or tombs
So no historical evidence for Jesus and the apostles and a life that reads almost exactly like that of other gods of the era, especially Moses. Check how many of the characteristics apply to Moses. That's pretty compelling evidence for Jesus and the apostles being mythical.
Why are you mocking those who do not believe in your god (which would include other religions)?
I'm calling out the ways of the noisy and the proud, shouting from their pedestals, like the OP is doing in this thread. Commanding agreement to a very narrow point of view devoid of searching, seeking, and understanding.
It has nothing to do with believe or disbelief in any God. It's all about general human behavior, and unnecessary angst and drama. Day in and day out, the OP feverishly continues hammering away at his very personal (and narrow) view, and like a pet wrestling with a toy, won't let himself be free of it. Probably keeps him up all night too.
And... why aren't you highlighting his mocking of those believing in a God? I know why, because you have one position for yourselves, and a different position for others. Thanks for exposing your ways, as we can all see and read clearly before our eyes.
Last edited by Thoreau424; 10-19-2022 at 09:41 AM..
How do you explain the founding of all of the churches across the Mediterranean in the 1st century? Who was founding these churches, and what was their motivation for doing so?
Whatever their motivation, that doesn't mean they were correct about what they believed.
You're missing my point which is that rather than intentionally 'creating' a mythical character based on earlier mythical characters, the apostles actually believed that Jesus was who he claimed to be. And that makes thrillobyte's argument invalid.
No, you are presuming the apostles wrote the gospels. It is the gospel writers who created the mythical characters, not the apostles, who I agree saw something. The question is what did they see?
Of course. What were the intentions of those who founded the first churches?
Finding simple, unreasonable answers to questions they couldn't fathom.
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