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There are no words. That would be an insult to words. All I could say was "Leela". That's my one forced speaking in tongues word.
I'm wondering how those who claim to (ahem) 'speak in tongues' react when they see videos of the mocking kind such as that presented on the previous page. And, there are MANY such videos on YouTube to choose from.
The thing is, however, that whether 'tongues' be experienced by the hearer in a real-life 'church' situation or in videos such as the one presented, they ARE subject to mocking by virtue of their blatant phoniness. These charlatans are disturbing enough but their mindless congregations who are so enraptured by this stuff give even more cause for one to be disturbed.
Another thing. Of those who claim to have 'spoken in tongues' at one time but no longer do so, what possessed you to do so in the first place? Clearly it had nothing to do with the Holy Spirit, otherwise you would not have later 'wised up' and quit.
Claiming to have participated in this kind of stuff indicates something other than just having a nature of general gullibility like many of us do. Being gullible is one thing but actually putting oneself so intimately into something such as 'tongue-speaking' is another. How does this happen?
Thoughts?
* I may transfer the two previous posts to the other recent 'tongues' thread since the questions are just as valid.
Well, hardly a riot, Hanni. And I all but dismissed 'gullibility' alone from this particular phenomenon of 'speaking in tongues'. Maybe a smidgin' of gullibility but I feel that it's something more than that - 'possession' perhaps? - and that's why I asked the question. Is that okay with you?
Well, hardly a riot, Hanni. And I all but dismissed 'gullibility' alone from this particular phenomenon of 'speaking in tongues'. Maybe a smidgin' of gullibility but I feel that it's something more than that - 'possession' perhaps? - and that's why I asked the question. Is that okay with you?
Romulus, few people ever veer from a religion they were raised in, Pentecostals are good people that I would pit againt any denomination and the Pentecostals would win in love and passion, and charity alone. They have a lot of passion for God and I believe they are a powerful force meant to be. My problem was guilt, at 5 years old I was convinced I would burn in hell, I was convinced that I would be tortured to death for being a homosexual. I went to church 120 days a year sitting under a fire breatheing preacher. I was gulible. I was weeping in guilt when I went on an alter call, at 5 I started speaking in tongues being led by Effie Oberhoff lol.
Through my life countless of people have prophesied over me, and although I am no Pentecostal, I still believe what was said to me.
Posession, in my opnion, you are possessed.
Galatians explains it to you, Romans explains it to you, Jacob and Esau is a good picture, but Galatians telling you that you are Ishmael and Isaac should confirm it to you, that you are two sons, not one, that you have two mothers, not one, and neither of those is your biological mother. That you have two laws, two natures.
Galatians says you have to kick that bondswoman and her son out of you and the entire book of Revelation is explaining how to do just that.
Everyone is posessed, but some people do something about it
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Assembly of God, that's funny. That was the poisonous denomination of choice for the majority of my family. They lived and breathed it. It's so sad to me now, that all of my relatives were so indoctrinated and minds shut tighter than a virgin's legs. Ok, I could have left that part out. I just couldn't think of any other comparison.
I see why you use humor and sarcasm like I do. Folks here see it as irreverence and blasphemy and I say....how can you blaspheme something that doesn't exist? Or, I should say "I don't believe" that there is a god. I get tired of having to clarify things around here.
At least your family had the good sense to leave that insanity behind. I'm glad for you.
My posting style is sort of lazy but I realize I'm not going to change any minds on here so I might as well be as simplistic as possible and point out what I consider silly stuff.
Tongues is "silly stuff" but in the grand scheme of things it is pretty harmless behavior when taken by itself. When taken within the whole context of that culture, I sort of feel differently. But babbling doesn't hurt anybody.
What is funny to me is that many Christians who DON'T believe in tongues can be pretty concerned about people who do. Some consider it demonic activity and the like.
My posting style is sort of lazy but I realize I'm not going to change any minds on here so I might as well be as simplistic as possible and point out what I consider silly stuff.
Tongues is "silly stuff" but in the grand scheme of things it is pretty harmless behavior when taken by itself. When taken within the whole context of that culture, I sort of feel differently. But babbling doesn't hurt anybody.
What is funny to me is that many Christians who DON'T believe in tongues can be pretty concerned about people who do. Some consider it demonic activity and the like.
Nope, can't change any minds one way or the other so I just basically call people out when it gets to where waders are needed. I'm here to flex my writing skills and enjoy it. How I do that is no one's concern except C-D's, the sarcasm, the jokes and jabs...oh and 'burns'....ok, maybe I enjoy chapping someone's hide now and then.
Sure, sure, but I spent my entire life as an AG fundamentalist and the things I have seen and heard should not be witnessed by small children. That is scary to a child. So, imo psycho-babble is very dangerous.
I think it's a thing that is rare now, except for the old school televangelists. Yes, that's exactly how some view speaking in tongues. And, it IS usually the 'other' denominations or religions claiming the tongue speakers have been possessed by their brand of a Satan.
You ever noticed how easy it is to type "Santa" instead of 'Satan'? Might be some correlation there.
Well, hardly a riot, Hanni. And I all but dismissed 'gullibility' alone from this particular phenomenon of 'speaking in tongues'. Maybe a smidgin' of gullibility but I feel that it's something more than that - 'possession' perhaps? - and that's why I asked the question. Is that okay with you?
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Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius
Romulus, few people ever veer from a religion they were raised in, Pentecostals are good people that I would pit againt any denomination and the Pentecostals would win in love and passion, and charity alone. They have a lot of passion for God and I believe they are a powerful force meant to be. My problem was guilt, at 5 years old I was convinced I would burn in hell, I was convinced that I would be tortured to death for being a homosexual. I went to church 120 days a year sitting under a fire breatheing preacher. I was gulible. I was weeping in guilt when I went on an alter call, at 5 I started speaking in tongues being led by Effie Oberhoff lol.
Through my life countless of people have prophesied over me, and although I am no Pentecostal, I still believe what was said to me.
Posession, in my opnion, you are possessed.
Galatians explains it to you, Romans explains it to you, Jacob and Esau is a good picture, but Galatians telling you that you are Ishmael and Isaac should confirm it to you, that you are two sons, not one, that you have two mothers, not one, and neither of those is your biological mother. That you have two laws, two natures.
Galatians says you have to kick that bondswoman and her son out of you and the entire book of Revelation is explaining how to do just that.
Everyone is posessed, but some people do something about it
Well, Hanni, as is rather typical, most of what you say flies right over my head.
My posting style is sort of lazy but I realize I'm not going to change any minds on here so I might as well be as simplistic as possible and point out what I consider silly stuff.
Tongues is "silly stuff" but in the grand scheme of things it is pretty harmless behavior when taken by itself. When taken within the whole context of that culture, I sort of feel differently. But babbling doesn't hurt anybody.
What is funny to me is that many Christians who DON'T believe in tongues can be pretty concerned about people who do. Some consider it demonic activity and the like.
I would think that the main concern of Christians is that 'tongue-speaking' invariably leads to other forms of insane behavior, behavior that puts 'Christianity in its entirety' into disrepute in the minds of many. How can anyone consider the following video as something to be passed off as being 'harmless'?
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There are no words. That would be an insult to words. All I could say was "Leela". That's my one forced speaking in tongues word.
