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Their religion says we are infidels. Regardless, we sometimes have to engage bad people to keep Americans safe.
And Christianity says their religion is worshiping a false god. There were periods of history when Christians literally pinned giant crosses on their clothing and went marching into their lands to make war against them.
I am not really seeing a huge difference in the behaviors, just the technology for weaponry. War is war, and humans are humans. Our propensity to kill and take from one another is part of our flaws, what some call original sin.
Yes, sometimes we do have to engage bad people to keep America safe. It's when we label people as bad and engage them in order to keep America rich that Christians need to speak out.
And Christianity says their religion is worshiping a false god. There were periods of history when Christians literally pinned giant crosses on their clothing and went marching into their lands to make war against them.
I am not really seeing a huge difference in the behaviors, just the technology for weaponry. War is war, and humans are humans. Our propensity to kill and take from one another is part of our flaws, what some call original sin.
Yes, sometimes we do have to engage bad people to keep America safe. It's when we label people as bad and engage them in order to keep America rich that Christians need to speak out.
Isn't keeping America rich the same as keeping America safe? By safe, I mean financially viable. Our debt clock has been ticking since forever.
He didn’t stop the war but did leave his wife and three children without a husband and father for the rest of their lives. Oh, but the Vietnamese named a city after him. That’s nice. That made it all worthwhile.
He did stop the war. Not right there and then when he killed himself in protest against American brutality in Vietnam. Someone had to do the right thing while the rest of us watch the horrific wholesale slaughter of defenseless people. We don't seem to stop fighting endless wars. We are a Christian nation. We have been racking up bad karma since we became a nation in 1776 fighting the Brits. We are a warring nation finding one excuse after another to keep fighting. We need therapy.
Isn't keeping America rich the same as keeping America safe? By safe, I mean financially viable. Our debt clock has been ticking since forever.
No. We're not talking slogans and memes here. I am talking about using our power to control and disrupt the lives of people in other countries to increase the wealth of those in power and/or those who put them there. Something that could be opposed by Christians.
This thread isn't about America. This is about the principles and actions of Christians.
So, the OP is suggesting we should have stayed neutral in World War II and let Germany and Japan divide up the world?
I do oppose the US acting like the world's police. War should be a last resort to insure US security from invasion or direct harm. I don't believe war should be used as just an extension of politics. We do go to war far too often, because it is immensely profitable. I don't agree with that.
I agreed with the war in Kuwait. I did not agree with the war in Afghanistan or Iraq.
Beyond that, sadly, war between nations is as natural as arguments between individuals. Sad, but true.
So, the OP is suggesting we should have stayed neutral in World War II and let Germany and Japan divide up the world?
I do oppose the US acting like the world's police. War should be a last resort to insure US security from invasion or direct harm. I don't believe war should be used as just an extension of politics. We do go to war far too often, because it is immensely profitable. I don't agree with that.
I agreed with the war in Kuwait. I did not agree with the war in Afghanistan or Iraq.
Beyond that, sadly, war between nations is as natural as arguments between individuals. Sad, but true.
Well, I was trying to find some middle ground. The title says "why not oppose war actions more." I am hoping that we could maybe agree that we use drone strikes too much as it is killing innocent civilians who see it as the US as behaving terroristically. World police? The police aren't suppose to be doing drone strikes in residential neighborhoods or killing people because they look suspicious.
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Christians are not exactly generous in their attitude toward Muslims.
I can say that I sincerely try to be very nice and gracious to all including Muslims. In fact, I think our drone policy creates more bad relationships with Muslim majority countries.
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Do you have a reputable source that can corroborate your claims?
And why do you believe we don't care?
I put hyperlinks in the original post.
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Because there are bad people all over the world who want to kill Americans.
Does our drone policy make more people who want to kill Americans in revenge if we are killing so many innocent civilians?
Spilling blood often leads to more spilling of blood. I say life is precious and violence begets more violence.
So, the OP is suggesting we should have stayed neutral in World War II and let Germany and Japan divide up the world?
Lol -- remember, we tried mightily to do just that. It took a direct attack on Pearl Harbor to get rid of the isolationist stance in public sentiment. Suddenly, it wasn't just THEIR war, it was OURS.
He did stop the war. Not right there and then when he killed himself in protest against American brutality in Vietnam. Someone had to do the right thing while the rest of us watch the horrific wholesale slaughter of defenseless people. We don't seem to stop fighting endless wars. We are a Christian nation. We have been racking up bad karma since we became a nation in 1776 fighting the Brits. We are a warring nation finding one excuse after another to keep fighting. We need therapy.
Thousands of young men, mostly poor, were sent to vietnam to die for a useless war. Those who returned were so damaged they could not retrieve the life they left behind. Their family never saw the son or the husband they had bid goodbye. And the nation has treated the veterans most poorly.
So you die protesting the war or you die killing other people. Either way you die. Many veterans returned and became anti-war because they had seen what they saw.
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