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Old 04-19-2023, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yes. Mine is an example of a respectable view/opinion.
Okay. Catholic culture and officialdom, right up to the pope, that looked the other way while the sexual abuse of tens of thousands of boys over the decades took place was disgusting and disturbing...and continues.
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Old 04-19-2023, 01:53 PM
 
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Yes. Mine is an example of a respectable view/opinion.
It is an example of a bigoted opinion.
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Old 04-19-2023, 01:56 PM
 
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It is an example of a bigoted opinion.
I agree, and if I wasn't polite (at least most of the time) would have stated it more strongly.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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"such good business people"? LOL, nice.

We'll just have to let the reader decide.
Oh, are we dissing the Jews again in your "respectable opinion"?
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:07 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Okay. Catholic culture and officialdom, right up to the pope, that looked the other way while the sexual abuse of tens of thousands of boys over the decades took place was disgusting and disturbing...and continues.
They didn't look the other way. Ratzinger was head of the Office of Inquisition and wrote checks, lots of checks to hush them all up...$3 billion in hush money.

And then Ratzinger went on to become the Pope.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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They didn't look the other way. Ratzinger was head of the Office of Inquisition and wrote checks, lots of checks to hush them all up...$3 billion in hush money.

And then Ratzinger went on to become the Pope.
Darn you. I was waiting for him to say the upper echelons never knew.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Okay. Catholic culture and officialdom, right up to the pope, that looked the other way while the sexual abuse of tens of thousands of boys over the decades took place was disgusting and disturbing...and continues.
It's only because of the influence of Christian (specifically Catholic) morality that we can perceive pederasty as evil.

Christian cultures perceive pederasty as evil. Non-Christian cultures largely do not - and if they do, it's only due to the influence of Christianity.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:40 PM
 
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The glories of a non-Christian culture. Disgusting:

European Catholic missionaries such as Matteo Ricci and Francis Xavier noted with horror the prevalence and tolerance of homosexuality in Chinese and Japanese Buddhist monasteries. Japan, especially, has a long literary tradition exalting same-sex love among males, especially between older and younger samurai, kabuki actors and their patrons, and Buddhist monks or priests and their youthful acolytes. There is the popular belief that male love was introduced into Japan from China by Kukai, the founder of the Japanese tantric Buddhist Shingon School, and there is a long tradition of Buddhist poetry and prose writings on this theme. There is even a sexual theology of male eroticism, which is especially associated with the Shingon and Tendai Schools of Japanese Buddhism.

On the other hand, no such literary or religious tradition concerning same-sex orientation exists in Tibet and Mongolia. However, accounts by insiders as well as foreign travelers attest to its fairly widespread incidence between senior monks or monk officials and their younger servants. These young men took the passive sexual role in intercrural (between the thighs) intercourse, which was considered a lesser violation of monastic rules because it does not involve penetration of any orifice. Recent memoirs by Tibetans who were formerly the younger partners in such relationships indicate that their experiences were varied: Some were exploited by the older and more powerful partner, whereas in others the younger partner was nurtured, protected, and educated, with affection on both sides.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:45 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's only because of the influence of Christian (specifically Catholic) morality that we can perceive pederasty as evil.

Christian cultures perceive pederasty as evil. Non-Christian cultures largely do not - and if they do, it's only due to the influence of Christianity.
The Catholic Church paid hush money and just transferred/retired the priests who were practicing pederasty with their own alter boys.

That is fact.
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Old 04-19-2023, 02:46 PM
 
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The Catholic Church paid hush money and just transferred/retired the priests who were practicing pederasty with their own alter boys.

That is fact.
It's indisputable. And why/how do we know that sex between a priest and an acolyte is wrong?
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