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Actually you can counter their feelings with logic. It's logic that you can't counter with feelings.
"I feel 2 + 2 = 5"
1 + 1 = 2, therefore 2 + 2 = 4
"But I feel 2 + 2 = 5; I really believe it"
Are you open minded?
"Yes"
Is it possible that 2 + 2 does not equal 5?
"No, it isn't possible."
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Originally Posted by Bud235
Religion is faith-based.
A: "1+1=2"
B: "No, 1+1=3"
A: "Do you have any evidence of it?"
B: "It is beyond human comprehensions, but with faith, 1+1=3"
"But, oh BTW, since you won't happily repeat the 2 + 2 = 5 mantra-chant on demand, it's off to the dungeons with you. And men, burn down his home and kill his children as well!
Praise The Lord, Allah, & Zeus!"
BTW, to the OP's question, which seems to have been lost; this sub-forum is about religion & philosophy, and allows open debate about one's professed personal religious choices, if they choose to prop them up where they can be shot at. If you don't want that, but prefer warm Kum-Bay-Yah mutual aggrandizement and back-patting instead, go over to the Christianity forum. They'll love you to warm, cuddly bits! (though, I must say, I've seen a few flame-fights over there too. Odd, since they should be "One with God"...)
(The Christianity sub-forum: sometimes referred to over here as The Dark Side... just kidding; yah gotta have a tough skin and sense of humor here too.)
A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.
Certainly. But a truth is a measurable thing, able to stand up to testing, whether laboritory or simple logic and reasoning, and certainly has more of a basic foundation than ancient sctipures whoes every myth and miracle are disproved by simple sciences and basic reasoning.
Certainly. But a truth is a measurable thing, able to stand up to testing, whether laboritory or simple logic and reasoning, and certainly has more of a basic foundation than ancient sctipures whoes every myth and miracle are disproved by simple sciences and basic reasoning.
A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it.
Just a small nitpick . . . a lie is an untruth that is professed as truth by someone KNOWING that it is an untruth. It is NOT a lie if the one professing it believes it is the truth. This is a common mistake in the use of "lie."
Just a small nitpick . . . a lie is an untruth that is professed as truth by someone KNOWING that it is an untruth. It is NOT a lie if the one professing it believes it is the truth. This is a common mistake in the use of "lie."
A little nitpick again -- most of religious followers do not know the real nature and the intention of religion, but religious leaders know very well it is a lie and use it to control the followers.
(in other words, the person who made up the God figure certainly knew what he was doing himself -- that is a lie by definition)
A little nitpick again -- most of religious followers do not know the real nature and the intention of religion, but religious leaders know very well it is a lie and use it to control the followers.
(in other words, the person who made up the God figure certainly knew what he was doing himself -- that is a lie by definition)
Paranoia strikes deep.
Also what about religions that have no clergy or leadership like the Quakers.
When you stay out of dictating what the laws of this land are, I will leave you alone.
You have freedom of religion, I should have freedom from it. But, increasingly the righteous religious right is forcing religious beliefs into the laws of this land!
i dont see the religious beliefs being effectively forced in the law or in the land, work ethic is gone and we got highest prison population on earth.
you are saying we are getting more godly, i dont think so.
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