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Old 05-08-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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I've been on a number of Boards discussing theology and I want to say a few things.

Things that don't work.

I see you guys saying two things that fall flat, cuz christains know different and fail to respond, because-well we think it laughable.

1. God acts in ways that seem seem contrary to being all loving and
"omnibenevolent" therefore He can't be real.

Two points to remember. Just cuz God acts in ways we don't understand or agree with has no bearing on whether He exists. Also know that "all loving" and "omnibenevolent" are not part of our understanding of God. It would appear that those concepts were deveoped as Strawman arguements by atheists. These concepts are not biblical.

2. The Concept of a zillion gods of which the "Christian god" is but one.

We roll our eyes at that one. The choice for us is easy. Yes there are other gods. Says as much in the Bible. But there is the God who created all. No brainer. We go with that one.

Have you ever wondered why we don't bite on the idea that God is but one of a zillion choices? It is because that idea is an atheistic concept. We know what we believe. Please go with that and stop doing the strawman thing. It doesn't shake us up, in fact it only streghtens our faith. Misconceptions and strawman arguements on your part only convinces us that you are wrong and we are right.

Thank you for your time.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:23 PM
 
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I'm liking this post so far...It makes sense from a religious and nonreligious standpoint. But I don't get it. Are you a Christian or an Atheist? I got lost at the "We roll our eyes.."
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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I'm liking this post so far...It makes sense from a religious and nonreligious standpoint. But I don't get it. Are you a Christian or an Atheist? I got lost at the "We roll our eyes.."
He is someone loosing his faith -- a lost lamb.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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I'm liking this post so far...It makes sense from a religious and nonreligious standpoint. But I don't get it. Are you a Christian or an Atheist? I got lost at the "We roll our eyes.."
A very solid Christian, who sees both sides of the issue. Atheists are wrong IMO. But I am happy to help them do a better job. I enjoy intellegent discussion.

For me-once you have experienced the power of God in your life what people say to the contrary falls flat.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Lindsey------------------------------------------------------ATHEIST

Thanks for the big announcement...whatever dude.

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Old 05-08-2010, 09:36 PM
 
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2. The Concept of a zillion gods of which the "Christian god" is but one.
You dismiss a zillion - 1 gods,
I dismiss a zillion.

Makes you about 99.9999999% Atheist don't it

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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. – Stephen Roberts
Damn I wish I had said that, but nor shall I not give credit to the man that did, I am after all an Atheist with morals
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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You dismiss a zillion - 1 gods,
I dismiss a zillion.

Makes you about 99.9999999% Atheist don't it



Damn I wish I had said that, but nor shall I not give credit to the man that did, I am after all an Atheist with morals
Hold on a sec, atheists have morals??? Whatever next !!
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:59 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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You dismiss a zillion - 1 gods,
I dismiss a zillion.

Makes you about 99.9999999% Atheist don't it


???

No offense, but your post makes no sense. But I am sure you had a point.

On of those fall flat attempts. I guess you didn't pay attention to the OP.

Need I repeat what I said?
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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I've been on a number of Boards discussing theology and I want to say a few things.

Things that don't work.

I see you guys saying two things that fall flat, cuz christains know different and fail to respond, because-well we think it laughable.

1. God acts in ways that seem seem contrary to being all loving and
"omnibenevolent" therefore He can't be real.

Two points to remember. Just cuz God acts in ways we don't understand or agree with has no bearing on whether He exists. Also know that "all loving" and "omnibenevolent" are not part of our understanding of God. It would appear that those concepts were deveoped as Strawman arguements by atheists. These concepts are not biblical.
This isn't true. Christians generally claim that god is all loving. If this were so then god would act in an all loving way. The problem with this is that the bible portrays a god of wrath and petty egoticism. He is constantly smiting and severely punishing anyone who doesn't worship/believe in him. This doesn't prove god doesn't exist, but it proves the god of the bible is not omnibenevolent.


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2. The Concept of a zillion gods of which the "Christian god" is but one.

We roll our eyes at that one. The choice for us is easy. Yes there are other gods. Says as much in the Bible. But there is the God who created all. No brainer. We go with that one.
This is based on your personal bias that the christian god is the one true god, when in actuality, if a god does exist then it is just as possible that it would be one of the 2999 other gods worshipped on the planet and it makes you look rather sanctimonious to claim that your god is the one true and only god when you no more evidence to prove Jehovah is god than there is for Zeus or Athena.


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Have you ever wondered why we don't bite on the idea that God is but one of a zillion choices? It is because that idea is an atheistic concept. We know what we believe. Please go with that and stop doing the strawman thing. It doesn't shake us up, in fact it only streghtens our faith. Misconceptions and strawman arguements on your part only convinces us that you are wrong and we are right.

Thank you for your time.
It is neither a misconception nor is it a strawman. It isn't an atheistic concept. The fact is that there are a multitude of gods worshipped on the planet and you can no more prove your god exists than a hindu can prove Brahma exists, yet you claim your god is the one and only god. The problem is that you make an exemption for your god.
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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???

No offense, but your post makes no sense. But I am sure you had a point.

On of those fall flat attempts. I guess you didn't pay attention to the OP.

Need I repeat what I said?

LOLOL, your trying so hard...kind of makes me wonder why?

Do you feel if you are MORE witty then an atheist you will get an extra star in your crown OR what?
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