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There are current residents "moving up" and buying houses as well as out of staters (especially from MA) "flocking in". I see this happening personally.
Your aunt has probably only seen RI from I95. Typical, and I wish a lot more would keep on going.
I just laugh when I hear about people thinking they're going to buy cheaply in a good area in this state.
That ship sailed long ago.
However, risky investment? I think not- I've never lost money on a house in this state. Why? Because I know where to buy- but that's true of every state. And that's the purpose of this forum, although many posters would like to destroy the value of it with nothing but snide comments- over and over and over.
Nope, my aunt actually grew up in Pawtucket. Left RI in her early twenties and never went back! I think she's around 65 years old now.
Laugh? There's still some 'cheap' finds. Take the 1 Beaver Rd Barrington listing Geoff pointed out. Also, have seen some $350K semi updated ranchers in E.Greenwich listed the last couple weeks. Even if you have to put some $$ in updating, still likely way cheaper than the MA real estate. Similar ranches would be upwards of $500K in what would be considered 'mediocre towns' in MA.
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Places go in & out of real estate fashion. I'd have guessed, I'd never have seen Austin, Texas leave the stage. A bastion of cool in a state that's not. But, she's taking a bow.
What is quite interesting is that cities that are popular largely depends on race, class, ethnicity, and nationality. Austin is viewed very favorable but the white and the liberal, but less so by African Americans and foreign born residents. But the former tend to bring real estate values higher so now its more expensive there.
Portland, OR is a good example of a city that is viewed as cool among the white and not among most others.
What is quite interesting is that cities that are popular largely depends on race, class, ethnicity, and nationality. Austin is viewed very favorable but the white and the liberal, but less so by African Americans and foreign born residents. But the former tend to bring real estate values higher so now its more expensive there.
Portland, OR is a good example of a city that is viewed as cool among the white and not among most others.
A hallmark of successful, sophisticated cities is diversity. Some places such as Austin & Portland, just never attracted the earliest patterns of African American immigration for various reasons. I do think, as Texas cities go, Austin may now be as popular with African American & foreign borns as any - who can afford the its price of entry today. But, I can agree there are few white liberal places, urban or rural, where there aren't comparatively lofty real estate values.
Nope, my aunt actually grew up in Pawtucket. Left RI in her early twenties and never went back! I think she's around 65 years old now.
Laugh? There's still some 'cheap' finds. Take the 1 Beaver Rd Barrington listing Geoff pointed out. Also, have seen some $350K semi updated ranchers in E.Greenwich listed the last couple weeks. Even if you have to put some $$ in updating, still likely way cheaper than the MA real estate. Similar ranches would be upwards of $500K in what would be considered 'mediocre towns' in MA.
I am not surprised about Pawtucket- it's hey day ended more than 100 years ago. I would have left there too after (or long before!) 95 destroyed the town. Having said that Oak Hill and parts of Fairlawn and Darlington are solidly middle class.
About the rest of your claim about MA, here's an arguably better house (200 sq ft bigger than your 1200 sq ft ranch) in Attleboro ( a mediocre town) in the 300s. I can find others for you if you like.
A hallmark of successful, sophisticated cities is diversity. Some places such as Austin & Portland, just never attracted the earliest patterns of African American immigration for various reasons. I do think, as Texas cities go, Austin may now be as popular with African American & foreign borns as any - who can afford the its price of entry today. But, I can agree there are few white liberal places, urban or rural, where there aren't comparatively lofty real estate values.
At 95% White, Jamestown, RI must be positively dreadful. Can Barrington and East Greenwich, both over 90% White, be far behind? And it's hard to imagine the drag of the lily-White East Side on the success and sophistication of the City of Providence in all its splendor of diversity. It's hard to overstate the simplification of your "diversity is good" mantra. Do some cities thrive because of diversity, or in spite of it? Perhaps in your own instance, diversity IS good. For somebody else.
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I am not surprised about Pawtucket- it's hey day ended more than 100 years ago. I would have left there too after (or long before!) 95 destroyed the town. Having said that Oak Hill and parts of Fairlawn and Darlington are solidly middle class.
About the rest of your claim about MA, here's an arguably better house (200 sq ft bigger than your 1200 sq ft ranch) in Attleboro ( a mediocre town) in the 300s. I can find others for you if you like.
At 95% White, Jamestown, RI must be positively dreadful. Can Barrington and East Greenwich, both over 90% White, be far behind? And it's hard to imagine the drag of the lily-White East Side on the success and sophistication of the City of Providence in all its splendor of diversity. It's hard to overstate the simplification of your "diversity is good" mantra. Do some cities thrive because of diversity, or in spite of it? Perhaps in your own instance, diversity IS good. For somebody else.
What I said was, "I can agree there are few WHITE LIBERAL places, urban or rural, where there aren't comparatively lofty real estate values". Your examples of RI neighborhoods, only serve to prove that point. Although EG could be argued. Perhaps, one of the last places in America where old school liberal republicans can still be found in any numbers.
About the rest of your claim about MA, here's an arguably better house (200 sq ft bigger than your 1200 sq ft ranch) in Attleboro ( a mediocre town) in the 300s. I can find others for you if you like.
If Attleboro (a city with a fraction of the crime rate and probably 10 X better schools than Providence) is "mediocre", then where does that leave Providence?
What I said was, "I can agree there are few WHITE LIBERAL places, urban or rural, where there aren't comparatively lofty real estate values". Your examples of RI neighborhoods, only serve to prove that point. Although EG could be argued. Perhaps, one of the last places in America where old school liberal republicans can still be found in any numbers.
You said: "the hallmark of successful and sophisticated cities is diversity". Hence my examples in Rhode Island to the contrary.
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