10-29-2008, 07:13 AM
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Cat, you would think the route to go would have involved Roosevelt! Weather it was Lackland,Kelly, or Brooks Field 70's era from Military Drive. Best route Military to Roosevelt north to St. Mary's straight on through. Through downtown to Jones or San Pedro or up Broadway off of Jones!
I was thinking Roosevelt sounded familiar. But that's such a long street that I couldn't begin to pinpoint what or where anything might have been that long ago.
Re: Navarro Street Bridge....now that I think of it, that just can't be it because it's TOO close to town....the one east of it is the Presa Street Bridge by "Marriage Island"...and this is a historical bridge...and right by the Arneson River Theater...again too close to town.
I might check with the Conservation Society. They would definitely know.
Or Mudpuddle? Where is he? I bet he would know! They could at least let me know if I'm crazy or not!
10-29-2008, 10:56 AM
Location: Austin, Tx.
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There was never a Nolan St. bridge but rather a railroad viaduct that allows cars to pass under the SP tracks on Nolan street. Years ago the Nolan St. viaduct was a narrow thing that barely allowed cars to pass in opposite directions, The current one is much wider but serves the same purpose of allowing trains to cross over Nolan St. eventho there is far less railroad traffic than in past years. And thanks to jg1208 for recalling the old Goliad Rd./Old CC Road bridge over the "Slough"(rhymes with cow) as we old timers still call it. That thing was an antique for sure and I have regretted for many years never taking a foto of that Model A vintage bridge before its demise.
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10-29-2008, 11:46 AM
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Is anyone familiar with the old landmark - Bowen's Island? My family used to own that before the big flood.
10-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Location: South Central Texas
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Is anyone familiar with the old landmark - Bowen's Island? My family used to own that before the big flood.
That's interesting! Wasn't San Antonio Drug Company on lower part of Broadway?
Where is/was Bowen's Island?
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10-29-2008, 12:27 PM
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That's interesting! Wasn't San Antonio Drug Company on lower part of Broadway?
Where is/was Bowen's Island?
Was Bowens Island on river by pecan farms south of Berg's Mill??
If you go back to page 207, 209 and 211 of this thread or search...GWHopper did some research on Bowen's Island/Mill. There are several photos posted on those pages. It was near the present day Tower life building.
Here is a little bio on John Bowen, the island's namesake.
Granada Homes - San Antonio, Texas
Some tidbits in here.
The San Antonio River
http://www.bexar.org/historic/Center/center.htm (broken link)
Photo of historical marker for Bowen's Island
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...ctive%26sa%3DN
10-29-2008, 12:42 PM
Location: South Central Texas
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Thanks Primo, I'll do that . Wow! That was way back!
10-29-2008, 01:33 PM
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Hey Primo long time no see, good to see you on here. But I was reading about the island a few weeks ago and great stuff on there. Its amazing about the history of the river.
10-29-2008, 04:31 PM
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Oh my goodness! John Bowen is my grandmother's brother!!!!!
10-29-2008, 05:22 PM
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Oh my goodness! John Bowen is my grandmother's brother!!!!!
That's amazing! I may have some info on your family that you may not have.....at least some historical references that tie into them. I will have to DM you later. I also have an ancestor that was an early downtown resident.
They probably hung out together!
He came to Texas in 1849....and was assassinated on E. Commerce ST about 3 miles from San Fernando Cathedral. SA was wild and wooly back then.
10-29-2008, 05:25 PM
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BTW - I was busy today! Got some leads on my mystery bridge. I have an older relative that remembers it vividly, but also can't name the street. Talked to Texana, the Conservation Society Librarian and the ITC Librarian. I have some amazing info that I'll hopefully get tomorrow....pictures and maps!
I'm such a nerd!
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Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Where is/was Bowen's Island? 
He came to Texas in 1849....and was assassinated on E. Commerce ST about 3 miles from San Fernando Cathedral. SA was wild and wooly back then.
