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Old 07-26-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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We're not trying to impress anyone with our pedestrian activity. You seem to be confusing Dallas' pretentiousness with Houston.. In the summer time and rainy season it's too miserable for most people to walk long distances outside, so our tunnel system is very useful for those occasions. Im not sure how bridging the gap between the tunnel system and the streets is counter productive as it helps bring more activity up to the street level. As it is now there arent enough connections and the tunnel system is isolated once you get inside the buildings. Main Street is picking up again, of course there's discogreen, and now market square, and soon to be thousands of new residences and 3 new light rail lines.

Trae covered pretty much all the bases in his post for why Houston's pedestrian activity is becoming successful as more and more of these developments come online. You make it seem like downtown Houston is doing nothing to improve.
Some of DtDallas' most vibrant times were indeed when the tunnels DIDN'T exist...Houstons too for that matter...so no you are wrong...Yes it gets hot Texas but its been hot in Texas. Give people something thats worth braving the heat(which Dallas is finally doing) and the heat becomes a non-issue.

 
Old 07-26-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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We're not trying to impress anyone with our pedestrian activity. You seem to be confusing Dallas' pretentiousness with Houston.. In the summer time and rainy season it's too miserable for most people to walk long distances outside, so our tunnel system is very useful for those occasions. Im not sure how bridging the gap between the tunnel system and the streets is counter productive as it helps bring more activity up to the street level. As it is now there arent enough connections and the tunnel system is isolated once you get inside the buildings. Main Street is picking up again, of course there's discogreen, and now market square, and soon to be thousands of new residences and 3 new light rail lines.

Trae covered pretty much all the bases in his post for why Houston's pedestrian activity is becoming successful as more and more of these developments come online. You make it seem like downtown Houston is doing nothing to improve.
Bruh, it's a difference if Houston had tunnels and it was vibrant on street level but it isn't, there are even plans to add to it. The City of Dallas realizes that our tunnels are killing our downtown so they want to do something about it. There are cities around the USA that have crazy weather as well, but they don't have tunnels.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 09:34 PM
 
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I think the Dallasites have a point here. San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth seems to have more active downtowns because they don't have an expansive tunnel system underground.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:03 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I think the Dallasites have a point here. San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth seems to have more active downtowns because they don't have an expansive tunnel system underground.
That, and the fact that all three invested more in street level activity rather than mostly skyscrapers...
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas,TX
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I think the Dallasites have a point here. San Antonio, Austin, and Fort Worth seems to have more active downtowns because they don't have an expansive tunnel system underground.
Yes, couldn't agree more. Also, can we please stop talking about vibrancy and street level in a skyline thread?
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:24 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Except the tunnels are mainly where the office buildings are and close when people get off work...
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:42 PM
 
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Except the tunnels are mainly where the office buildings are and close when people get off work...
Right!!!!....which is why it makes alot of sense to move the shops above ground so they could eventually stay open as long as the "Pedestrian Activity" warrants.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:48 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Right!!!!....which is why it makes alot of sense to move the shops above ground so they could eventually stay open as long as the "Pedestrian Activity" warrants.
Do you think all parts of downtown Chicago or Manhattan are happening 24/7? The financial districts in most downtowns are dead after business hours.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:55 PM
 
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Do you think all parts of downtown Chicago or Manhattan are happening 24/7? The financial districts in most downtowns are dead after business hours.
Ohhhhhh ok now that exaplains the difference between the two. See DtDallas is slowly moving away from being "Strictly Business " and is working towards becoming a full blown urban community with all the bells and whistles rolled together....you know...the complete package.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 10:58 PM
 
Location: ITL (Houston)
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Ohhhhhh ok now that exaplains the difference between the two. See DtDallas is slowly moving away from being "Strictly Business " and is working towards becoming a full blown urban community with all the bells and whistles rolled together....you know...the complete package.
Yeah that's Downtown Houston east of Main. Office towers don't bring activity after 5. Dallas had so much vacant office space in their financial district, that they could convert some space to residential. Houston has to deal with building new residential towers downtown because there is too much demand for office space.
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