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Old 06-04-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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I'm not buying that anyone on Richmond's campaign did it. I think the Mayor had time to have the security system reprogrammed so the key card could work there.
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:24 AM
 
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If it is Jamie, it is going to be way too obvious. They are trying to make us believe it is him, that is the reason I don't.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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I think it will be revealed that it was Jamie's key card and he was in the casino that night, but in another swerve someone else will be the murderer. I can easily Jamie being the guy who tried to sabotage the Mayor's development deal, but I don't think he'd kill someone over it.
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Old 06-05-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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I don't think that Jamie is the killer but I wonder if maybe he knows something or saw something. Remember when he had that meeting with the mayor in season one where he had a cocktail and then threw up in the bathroom. Does anyone remember what that conversation was about? I remember watching it but not being able to hear the dialogue due to distractions.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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I think I will try to rewatch season 1 this week.
It is very interesting to me that Richmond's alibi was jumping off the bridge in Tacoma and that is only 34 miles from Seattle. He could just as easily been driving to Tacoma to throw Rosie off the bridge. THEN his despair at what he has become took over with memories of his wife the closer he got to the bridge where he proposed to her.
After the fishermen saved him, he really had no choice but to push the car off into the lake.
I think the casino is protecting Richmond and his encounter with Rosie up there because it seems I remember he was going to help them but could be wrong. He could have met Rosie to pay blackmail which she needed in order to leave town. He was involved with prostitutes and Rosie may have been one.
As far as the Mayor, I think he is fighting Linden so hard because he doesn't want the real killer found until after the election in hopes the public will have enough doubts not to trust Richmond.

Just my thoughts but remember Ten Little Indians by Agatha Christie?
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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I don't think that Jamie is the killer but I wonder if maybe he knows something or saw something. Remember when he had that meeting with the mayor in season one where he had a cocktail and then threw up in the bathroom. Does anyone remember what that conversation was about? I remember watching it but not being able to hear the dialogue due to distractions.
I do remember that scene, but not the conversation. Hmm, makes me want to watch it again...

Also, there HAS to be a connection with Rosie's aunt. Remember the scene of her crying in jags, and then this week when she saw the picture of Rosie in the trunk? She is connected somehow.

And Rosie's rich boyfriend's dad? What happened to that thread?

It's so hard to keep up sometimes.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:00 AM
 
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I think I will try to rewatch season 1 this week.
It is very interesting to me that Richmond's alibi was jumping off the bridge in Tacoma and that is only 34 miles from Seattle. He could just as easily been driving to Tacoma to throw Rosie off the bridge. THEN his despair at what he has become took over with memories of his wife the closer he got to the bridge where he proposed to her.
After the fishermen saved him, he really had no choice but to push the car off into the lake.
I think the casino is protecting Richmond and his encounter with Rosie up there because it seems I remember he was going to help them but could be wrong. He could have met Rosie to pay blackmail which she needed in order to leave town. He was involved with prostitutes and Rosie may have been one.
As far as the Mayor, I think he is fighting Linden so hard because he doesn't want the real killer found until after the election in hopes the public will have enough doubts not to trust Richmond.

Just my thoughts but remember Ten Little Indians by Agatha Christie?
You're forgetting that Rosie wasn't a prostitute, wasn't in a relationship with him whatsoever.

She was merely a housekeeper who was about to run away for California.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:13 AM
 
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I do remember that scene, but not the conversation. Hmm, makes me want to watch it again...

Also, there HAS to be a connection with Rosie's aunt. Remember the scene of her crying in jags, and then this week when she saw the picture of Rosie in the trunk? She is connected somehow.

And Rosie's rich boyfriend's dad? What happened to that thread?

It's so hard to keep up sometimes.
I agree. I think the aunt's former boyfriend was somehow involved and she knows what happened. I think that a lot of people were involved in the murder/cover up.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Yeah, the aunt knows SOMETHING. That's for certain. There's gotta be a doozy of a reason for her to be staying quiet.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Maybe I'm being too practical for this series, but isn't Gwen too slight a frame to be able to hunt a full-grown late teenager through woods, find her, wrangle her into being bound and lift her into the trunk of a car? Maybe I'm forgetting or missing something.

Not saying a woman couldn't commit the crime, but she had to have done all that without a scratch on her, and she doesn't seem to me like the kind of person who works out in the manner needed for the strength to commit the crime.

If this isn't another red herring then I think it's Jamie. I've thought it was him ever since his obvious and sustained guilt when Richmond got shot.
Jaime is small too, I don't know how big Rosie was supposed to be, but I don't see him being strong enough either without threatening her with a weapon, which a woman could do also.
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