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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:04 AM
 
Location: South Wales, United Kingdom
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I am not spinning anything. The figures are from the results. The BBC web site shows them. Look.

It was clear. The election was about one thing and one thing only - BREXIT. It was a defacto referendum. The main two parties were divided on Remain and Leave. Some people who voted for Tory or Labour were either Leave or Remain, so those parties are excluded. None of the two main parties were flying Leave or Remain flags. The two man parties are on the fence.

The others went in flying flags of Remain or Leave, that was clear if you had been following the run up. Total the Remain votes up and they win - handsomely.

The total votes are those that are being analysed and used now. No one cares if some tiny egotist won in a first past the post way.
Again, this is just wishful thinking on your part (and every other Remoaner ).

Unless we know the exact numbers of Leavers/Remainers, who also voted for the Tories, Labour, and all of those other little parties, then you cannot claim this to be a victory for Remain!

PS/ Don’t listen to everything the Remainer BBC tell you.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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And also... are we supposed to believe that everyone who voted for the Green Party, did so because they were a Remainer who wants a second referendum... and not for the climate change situation?
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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A one trick pony party 6 weeks old, does not matter. The totalled Remain votes won. It is that simple, you do not need to be a rocket scientist to understand that. Moderator cut: personal attack

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Old 05-27-2019, 09:25 AM
 
Location: South Wales, United Kingdom
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A one trick pony party 6 weeks old, does not matter. The totalled Remain votes won. It is that simple, you do not need to be a rocket scientist to understand that. Moderator cut: personal attack
No. Remain hasn’t won anything.

Unless you believe that every single person who voted for the Tories, Labour and every other piddly little party out there, was also a Remainer!

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Old 05-27-2019, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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I am not spinning anything. The figures are from the results. The BBC web site shows them. Look.

It was clear. The election was about one thing and one thing only - BREXIT. It was a defacto referendum. The main two parties were divided on Remain and Leave. Some people who voted for Tory or Labour were either Leave or Remain, so those parties are excluded. None of the two main parties were flying Leave or Remain flags. The two man parties are on the fence.

The others went in flying flags of Remain or Leave, that was clear if you had been following the run up. Total the Remain votes up and they win - handsomely.

The total votes are those that are being analysed and used now. No one cares if some tiny egotist won in a first past the post way.
If that were true, then Labour and the Tories would have received no votes. They did, about 23% of the total.

We know the swings, 13% to Lib Dems, 4% to Green, and about 5% everyone else. That's about 22% swing towards remain, and obviously Brexits platform was Brexit, as was UKIP, which amount to about 35%.

If you're saying that remain is all votes of Lib Dem, Green, Plaid Cymru, SNP, and Change UK, because of their position at the time of the polling, then you'd have to roll Labour and Tories into Brexit (because both actually support Brexit, not necessarily no deal Brexit, but still Brexit) for another 23% for 58% leave to 39% (sum of all with stated remain policies)
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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If that were true, then Labour and the Tories would have received no votes. They did, about 23% of the total.

We know the swings, 13% to Lib Dems, 4% to Green, and about 5% everyone else. That's about 22% swing towards remain, and obviously Brexits platform was Brexit, as was UKIP, which amount to about 35%.

If you're saying that remain is all votes of Lib Dem, Green, Plaid Cymru, SNP, and Change UK, because of their position at the time of the polling, then you'd have to roll Labour and Tories into Brexit (because both actually support Brexit, not necessarily no deal Brexit, but still Brexit) for another 23% for 58% leave to 39% (sum of all with stated remain policies)
Yeah, that’s more like it!

The Remoaners seem to think that everyone... absolutely everyone... who didn’t vote for either the Brexit Party or UKIP, must therefore be a Remainer!!
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Comical Ali Campbell - Blair's Spin Liar - has been touring the TV studios spouting this nonsense about adding up all the losing votes to make Remain winners.

He's including the entire Labour vote as being Remain.

The efforts to deny this remarkable victory by Nigel Farage,critically wounding the Tory party and inflicting huge damage on labour,are very droll to watch.
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Old 05-27-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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Comical Ali Campbell - Blair's Spin Liar - has been touring the TV studios spouting this nonsense about adding up all the losing votes to make Remain winners.

He's including the entire Labour vote as being Remain.

The efforts to deny this remarkable victory by Nigel Farage,critically wounding the Tory party and inflicting huge damage on labour,are very droll to watch.
It sure is droll to watch. They're twisting in the wind, looking for any light at the end of the tunnel...

A political party, six weeks old, has tore them to pieces.

The Liberals are screeching in delight, at yet another comeback. They've been having them my whole life. Next they'll be saying 'PREPARE FOR GOVERNMENT' like Jeremy Thorpe did once.

Now for the fun of watching the Tory beauty contestant entrants trying to be the toughest Brexiteer of them all.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Looking like there might be a nice bonus seat gained for the strongly pro-remain Alliance Party in Northern Ireland as the Ulster Unionist Party Candidate defending the third seat has been eliminated.
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Old 05-27-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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Looking like there might be a nice bonus seat gained for the strongly pro-remain Alliance Party in Northern Ireland as the defending Ulster Unionist Candidate has been eliminated.
More importantly Sinn Fein is cratering south of the border.
Voters have tired of their political posturing.
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