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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:41 PM
 
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It's been a hell of a ride this last three years for sure, britinspain. I guess we all just want it to end now though, whichever way it pans out.

No hard feelings whichever way that is. I think we're all just wore out by it now. But, I guess we will all raise ourselves for one last effort to win for whatever we believe is right.
I don’t know. I think if your Brexit lasts for more than 3 years you should consult a doctor.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:23 AM
 
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I’m not sure what you mean about cherry pick. CETA went into effect a couple of years ago on a provisional basis at which point about 98% of tariffs were removed. Those tariffs are still removed even though the deal hasn’t yet been ratified by a number of EU countries.

As far as how the deal is doing, the only article I’ve read had an admission by the EU negotiator that EU companies have been quicker to take advantage of the deal. That’s not too surprising. Canadian companies have free trade with the U.S. too, and, because of geography and familiarity, if a company is expanding, it’s a lot simpler/easier to expand next door into the huge U.S. market than long distance into Europe.

The geography issue is also something British companies, particularly smaller ones, will face with a no deal Brexit. Doing business with nearby Europe will have seemed so much easier because of closeness and familiarity. The British government will need to play a important role in aiding and encouraging these companies to establish business relationships elsewhere.
John Brian Shannon is the expert regarding CETA compliance, so I will refer you to Letter to Britain.

As for small British companies, the Anglosphere countries might be a partial exception. Small British companies may not know the territory, but they will be dealing with native English speakers, and legal systems based on the British Common Law tradition.
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:45 AM
 
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When a little country like Luxembourg humiliates the UK, it's not because the UK commands respect; no, it's because their dear leader BoJo is looking like a punching bag, so much so that and even Lux will get a shot in.
Theresa May and Boris Johnson have come across as diplomatic, while the Europeans come across as rude and crude.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:08 AM
 
Location: England
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Theresa May and Boris Johnson have come across as diplomatic, while the Europeans come across as rude and crude.
EU leaders made fun of Theresa May behind her back. Just total disdain for the UK Prime Minister. We have had the likes of Macron, Juncker and Tusk sneering at us openly, dripping with contempt for us. It is all about the money. Without our contribution, there is a massive hole in the EU budget.

We have had enough of pouring our hard earned taxes into the EU coffers, for them to decide how best they want to spend it. Lots of EU countries, have a permanent hand out for more, like bleedin' Oliver Twist.

Enough. The only way forward is a no deal Brexit. There is no deal to negotiate. The EU want to hurt us, as an example to others, who even dream of leaving the EU.

It will become real nasty after we leave. They will do their best to hurt us. It could become tit for tat, and end up damaging us all. There is nothing we can do about that. We have to make our way in the world as best we can, and try and rebuild old friendships with other English speaking countries of the world. We have more in common with them, than we ever had with European nations.

We are an island race, with seas full of fish surrounding us. We need to reclaim our fishing territories, and look outwards beyond Europe. Of course it's not good, but we have no choice. They are going to try and harm us. It is starting to look like an evil Empire, run by incompetent political failures in their own countries, over promoted by cronyism, paying themselves vast sums, finished off with a fat pension, provided by EU taxpayers. Well, they've had quite enough of our money. Time to leave.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:25 AM
 
Location: England
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Turns out the guy who ambushed Boris Johnson at an NHS hospital yesterday, is a Labour activist. Within his twitter bio, he states he is, 'a Labour activist, campaigning against Brexit, and for a socialist Europe.'

Steps need taking to protect Boris from being ambushed like this. This guy came right up to him, and started ranting. He could have been a nutter with a weapon. Security needs a slap round the head, and our PM needs better protection.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Canada
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John Brian Shannon is the expert regarding CETA compliance, so I will refer you to Letter to Britain.

As for small British companies, the Anglosphere countries might be a partial exception. Small British companies may not know the territory, but they will be dealing with native English speakers, and legal systems based on the British Common Law tradition.
It took me awhile to figure out that Letter to Britain was a website. I did a search there and only found this:

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In the case of the Canada-EU trade agreement (CETA) it took the two countries 8-years of on-again, off-again negotiations to reach a deal — which the Canadian Parliament ratified within weeks, while not one EU27 country has ratified it. Indeed, the EU has chosen to ignore the parts of the CETA deal they don’t like which makes them guilty of ‘cherry-picking’ the (signed and ratified by Canada-only) CETA deal.
https://lettertobritain.com/?s=CETA+cherry+pick&submit=

There is no explanation about what the parts of the CETA deal are being ignored so I am still baffled.

Also the author’s claim that no E27 country has ratified it is a flat out lie. Several have. France is the latest: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fra...deal-1.5221766

The delay in ratification by EU countries was expected.

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Completion, translation of the final text into 24 EU languages, and ratification is expected to take years since the passage of the deal approval of the European Parliament and the European Council as well as Canada and the individual 28 EU member states as well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp...rade_Agreement

By the way, NAFTA 2.0, which is only an update of an existing agreement, was signed one year ago this month. It still has not been ratified by the U.S. and Canada.
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Old 09-19-2019, 01:47 AM
 
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I have asked JBS to post details to city-data.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Theresa May and Boris Johnson have come across as diplomatic, while the Europeans come across as rude and crude.
People like Guy Verhofstadt are disgusting, and they are the reason why many peple hate the EU so much.

Verhofstadt, also likes to get involve in British politics he was at the Lib Dumbs Conference recently and has done nothing but insult Britain and her people.

Although I am not sure hideous pap toothed flopped haired tosser, Verhofstadt, a poluitician ftom mighty Belgian shiuld be directed insultes at anyone, as people in glass hgouses and he who caste the first stone and all that.
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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People like Guy Verhofstadt are disgusting, and they are the reason why many peple hate the EU so much.

Verhofstadt, also likes to get involve in British politics he was at the Lib Dumbs Conference recently and has done nothing but insult Britain and her people.

Although I am not sure hideous pap toothed flopped haired tosser, Verhofstadt, a poluitician ftom mighty Belgian shiuld be directed insultes at anyone, as people in glass hgouses and he who caste the first stone and all that.
Autocorrect is either your friend, or your mortal enemy. Me and my autocorrect are kind of frenemies.

That said I think I agree with your assessment of Verhofstadt, a man I could punch all day and not get tired.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Autocorrect is either your friend, or your mortal enemy. Me and my autocorrect are kind of frenemies.

That said I think I agree with your assessment of Verhofstadt, a man I could punch all day and not get tired.

Totally agree, I would also dearly like tp punch Verhofstadt, in fact he has a face that's just made to be punched.

As for my typos and grammar, I apologise, I am usually trying to do too many things at once or I am in a hurry.
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