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Location: Great Britain
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Originally Posted by Steve Reese
British people often complain about the wars, racism, US imperialism, US corporations, US influence, US anything, if so, why do the people of the UK allow themselves to ally itself with the US? Why doesn't the UK isolate it like what it is doing with North Korea or Iran? Why doesn't the the UK ban US corporations and kick out the US military? Why don't British people just keep the US out for good so that they won't be so hateful?
There are millions of solutions to your problems.
Why let the very thing or things that you hate enter your lives?
Not more Anti-American threads, aren't you tired yet.
As for Britain, we have our own foreign policy, whilst US bases are here due to NATO and intelligence agreements, and whuich benefit the west as a whole.
The UK is actually looking to trade more with the US and the rest of the world, and willn not be isolating itself, indeed it may well establish even greater anglosphere cooperation and trade through Canzuk and other proposed agreements.
No, what is not new is that humans are "terrible" creatures.
We cooperate to the extent that it is in the best interests of those with the wherewithal to cooperate.
Yes, there are better hobbies than bad-mouthing one another (see point one), but we are used to it.
There is an old Italian expression: when they piss down your back, make believe it's raining.
Here's one from childhood: sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me.
Here's one from English literature: what's in a name?
But when push comes to shove, France and the United States, just for example, have been on the same side in every war, or at least neutral, since year one.
The US and UK since the 1820s.
France and UK since the 1850s.
Still, I wouldn't think twice at pointing my middle finger at either one of them, just to take the Michael out of them.
It's too much fun.
Get it?
By the way, besides threats and proxies here and there around the world (which is good for business), have the US and Russia every actually fired a shot at one another (which is bad)?
I don't recall that.
Seems you, terrible creature, have the same hobbies that we do.
I'm not talking about being liked here. Who cares about being liked? Let me ask you, do you feel like you speak for the majority of you when you say that Britain wants American protection and American influence in your country?
Britain influences and is influenced by a LOT of other countries not just the US, Britain is also part of NATO which again does not simply equate to the US, why would it be OK with you for the British to be influenced by Indian Curry's and not American films? Are the Spanish OK with being influenced by English sports or should they bullfight instead of kick a ball? There is one very obvious reason why Britain has a close relationship with other Anglo countries (including the US) and that is LANGUAGE which has a huge unifying effect, Anglo nations share a LOT of culture both ways, we watch Australian soaps, Americans listen to British music, Australians watch American films and Canadians and New Zealanders both watch 'Due South'. Britain is also influenced by Europe (neighbours) and other Commonwealth nations for obvious reasons. Britain obviously exported a lot of culture when it had a global empire but now the world is a much smaller place and there is most certainly a lot more 'globalization' than ever before.
Britain influences and is influenced by a LOT of other countries not just the US, Britain is also part of NATO which again does not simply equate to the US, why would it be OK with you for the British to be influenced by Indian Curry's and not American films? Are the Spanish OK with being influenced by English sports or should they bullfight instead of kick a ball? There is one very obvious reason why Britain has a close relationship with other Anglo countries (including the US) and that is LANGUAGE which has a huge unifying effect, Anglo nations share a LOT of culture both ways, we watch Australian soaps, Americans listen to British music, Australians watch American films and Canadians and New Zealanders both watch 'Due South'. Britain is also influenced by Europe (neighbours) and other Commonwealth nations for obvious reasons. Britain obviously exported a lot of culture when it had a global empire but now the world is a much smaller place and there is most certainly a lot more 'globalization' than ever before.
Well thank you for being reasonable, because I think this person is trying to ask a legitimate question of some kind, yet he/she is labeled as "Russian troll" just because.
Hopefully we'll be able to put his/her restless mind to rest, instead of seeing the same questions popping up over and over again.
And if everything fails, at least we'll be referring him/her back to this post of yours.
I've been spending a lot of time over at Quora and they definitely feel this way. In fact, a lot of Europeans wants the US to collapse and be replaced by Russia or China or better, by them. They believe that the US is an incompetent power and that the world would be better led by another.
Going to Quora to look for balanced opinions of the US is like going to an Irish pub in Derry to look for balanced opinions about the UK.
Well thank you for being reasonable, because I think this person is trying to ask a legitimate question of some kind, yet he/she is labeled as "Russian troll" just because.
Its not "just because". The idea that ordinary/ a majority of Europeans want to turn their backs on the USA and embrace Russia (paraphrasing his words) is a false one pushed by Russian trolls on the internet. Thus why many people's initial reaction here was he is one of those. Plus, seeing you endorse his "question" supports that argument.
Its not "just because". The idea that ordinary/ a majority of Europeans want to turn their backs on the USA and embrace Russia (paraphrasing his words) is a false one pushed by Russian trolls on the internet. Thus why many people's initial reaction here was he is one of those. Plus, seeing you endorse his "question" supports that argument.
Well don't "paraphrase" the OP, because this particular thread was not opened regarding *Europeans* in general, but SPECIFICALLY about the UK. (That's why it ended up in UK section, just in case you didn't notice.)
I endorsed OP question as legitimate and laughed off accusations of "Russian trolling," because specifically from RUSSIAN point of view, the alignment of UK and US comes as a natural thing, since Russians consider both as basically one and the same force.
( Now when I think about it, Russians jokingly refer to both as Naglo-Saxons ( from Russian word "Naglyi" - obnoxious/insolent) which is pretty funny. )
When it comes to the "majority of Europeans" - it's a slightly different story, and your statement that "an idea that majority of Europeans want to turn their backs on the USA and embrace Russia is a false one pushed by Russian trolls" is yet again lacks the subtlety.
Does anti-American sentiment exist in *Europe*?
Definitely yes, irrespective of any "Russian trolls."
Is it all about "embracing Russia instead of the US?"
Definitely not, it's just an acknowledgement that Russia is one of those forces withstanding American domination of the world, Europe including.
How many Europeans perceive things this way ( and by "Europeans" I mean "old Europe," not the "new Europe," concocted yet again with the help of the US, to serve the obvious goals,) is hard to tell.
Does part of Britons perceive things in the same manner as their *European* counterparts?
The answer is definitely yes, even if Russians are not aware of that.
As I've said, subtlety is not Russian strongest point, and neither is yours)))
How many Europeans perceive things this way....... is hard to tell.
What do you think, you live in Europe, I think you have an idea?
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