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What they call a "show trial" of sorts. Britiny Griner just had one in Moscow
This has never been anything but a show trial. She is not in the jurisdiction of the court. The court has no control over her. They can't sentence her to anything unless she agrees to the sentence. She is cooperating only to the degree that it benefits her. Turning it into a TV trial has probably been their intention all along. A 95 year ban on cameras in courtrooms was rescinded just in time for this sentencing. What a coincidence.
From an American point of view, I think it's kind of funny. The lengths British people will go through to make their point.
It's quite common in the US, such as The 'People v. O.J. Simpson.'
In the end the verdict was not guilty.
It is common in the US, but this is the first in the UK. And the first case they choose to televise is one for Causing death by careless driving. Something that at least a 150 people a year are convicted of. Actually a 150 people a year are convicted of causing death by dangerous driving. I can't even find the number for careless driving. Which is a lesser charge. The only reason this is even news, is because she is American.
Maybe the US should start televising the trials of all UK citizens who are charged with traffic code violations in the US. To try and humiliate them as much as possible. But I don't think we would do that.
As for the courts in England & Wales, the first televised sentencing was earlier this year in relation to the Ben Oliver case, it was shown on all the major British news channels and you can just look it up on youtube.
This followed an earlier televised sentencing in Scotland, in relation to Aaron Campbell., who abducted from her bed and murdered 6 year old Alesha MacPhail, who was staying with her grandparents on the Isle of Bute.
This has never been anything but a show trial. She is not in the jurisdiction of the court. The court has no control over her. They can't sentence her to anything unless she agrees to the sentence. She is cooperating only to the degree that it benefits her. Turning it into a TV trial has probably been their intention all along. A 95 year ban on cameras in courtrooms was rescinded just in time for this sentencing. What a coincidence.
From an American point of view, I think it's kind of funny. The lengths British people will go through to make their point.
What you think it's kind of funny that a British citizen is dead, and legal process is taking place.
The US promised that it would waive any immunity in such circumstances, and dependants were never supposed to be covered by immunity in the first place.
I am sure they will be future television dramas, documentaries and possible even films, showing just how disgusting and pathetic the US authorities were.
As for Croughton, it should be shut down and the Americans should be sent home.
This has never been anything but a show trial. She is not in the jurisdiction of the court. The court has no control over her. They can't sentence her to anything unless she agrees to the sentence. She is cooperating only to the degree that it benefits her. Turning it into a TV trial has probably been their intention all along. A 95 year ban on cameras in courtrooms was rescinded just in time for this sentencing. What a coincidence.
From an American point of view, I think it's kind of funny. The lengths British people will go through to make their point.
You think televising courtrooms has been brought in just for this! I mean SERIOUSLY!
Don't be daft.
I suppose you 'think it's kind of funny' only because the lost life wasn't an American one?
In terms of congestion charges in the UK, the US refuses to pay, then again they are probably too busy scrapping dead British citizens off their tyres to pay our pollution reducing vehicle charges, whilst claiming to be so environmentally aware.
I also keep forgetting that such chargres are just for the little people, and not US diplomats with their American exceptionalism and superiority.
How dare the UK complain or make a fuss, when a British teen is mowed down by an American, who claims Diplomatic Immunity.
Obviously Britain should just keep it's mouth shut and not seek justice in such circumstances.
As for Croughton, it's not in London and is a military base and not an Embassy, and the US promised Britain that immunity would automatically be waived in relation to serious off base incidents, but this turned out to be pathetic US Government lies from the pond life that resides in Washington DC.
Perhaps former London Mayor Ken Livingstone wasn't too far off the mark, when he described the US Ambassador as a "chiselling little crook" back in 2006.
that comment shows you dont know what your talking about, the Dunn lad was on an ordinary bike and in all probability on his way to work.
dosent absolve the female driver who was driving on the wrong side of the road in contravention of the laws of the UK.
The real issue I am bringing up is unlike most other accidents where often the news would show a diagram of how the accident occurred, all I can see from the media is an american drove wrong way and motorcyclist died thats it, no farther details been released. At least based on what I can find in the US and on the Internet. Absolutey No further details were ever released. I thought in UK under English common laws one is innocent until proven guilty. I searched online everywhere but can find absolutely zero details of how the crash occurred. I.e one in the thread raised the issue whether Anne's phone records showed texting and driving but that was quickly dismissed. We cannot always trust what the media tells us as they often don't tell the whole story.
Wrong way crashes when they happen usually is caused by someone its highly intoxicated or on drugs, likely suicidal and entered a motorway/controlled access high speed road and likely aimed for vehicles coming towards it. Which would have less than a second before its onto them. Its highly unlikely in other cases both parties were so obvious or assert they are dead right that they run right into each other especially if riding a motorcycle. Nicknamed "He had the right of way" on gravestone.
If we can only see a map or diagram of how the crash had occurred.
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